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Da Xu

I am running into a strange issue. I am trying to convert one of my gen~ patches into external via Rnbo. 

The patch works in Max, however when I reference it in Rnbo, it throws up some very strange error.

Codegen Error Error: Gen parsing failed: SyntaxError: Expected "!=", "!=p", "&&", "(", ",", ".", ";", "<<", "<=", "<=p", "<p", "=", "==", "==p", ">=", ">=p", ">>", ">p", "?", "[", "^^", "||", [\-*+/%], or [\-/+*%\^&|<>] but "h" found.

    at C:\Users\mouren\Documents\Max 8\Packages\RNBO\server\node_modules\@rnbo\xam-runner\lib\runner.js:143:27

 (C:\Users\mouren\Documents\Max 8\Packages\RNBO\server\node_modules\@rnbo\xam-runner\lib\runner.js:71:16)

    at C:\Users\mouren\Documents\Max 8\Packages\RNBO\server\dist\controllers\controllerInterface.js:291:39

    at Object.codegenInProcessJSON (C:\Users\mouren\Documents\Max 8\Packages\RNBO\server\dist\controllers\controllerInterface.js:287:76)

    at handleServerStreaming (C:\Users\mouren\Documents\Max 8\Packages\RNBO\server\node_modules\@grpc\grpc-js\src\server.ts:973:11)

    at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5)

There were errors that referenced some lines in my gen~ patch:

RNBO:     start: { offset: 817, line: 32, column: 9 },

RNBO:     end: { offset: 818, line: 32, column: 10 }

I looked at that line. What I saw in the Code box was a bunch of declarations for Delay and History, but interrupted by an assignment from in to a variable.  I did not write the code in this order, it was generated by gen~.

One thing to note is that I am using nested gen~ patches, and each nested patch uses about 8 delay lines, plus history. 

I remember reading somewhere that all Delays and History had to be defined at the top of the file?

Could that be the reason why Rnbo is freaking out? But why is Max not throwing up any errors and been happily running the code for the past few months. 

While I am at it, is there any best practices with regard to nested gen~ patches and encapsulation? What if I include multiple copies of the same gen~ subpatch?

Delay and history definition order - Error in Rnbo, but not Max

delay-and-history-definition-order

Reilly Shellito

EDIT: got it sorted out, needed a history operator because there was a feedback loop.

I'm still pretty new to Max and gen~, but I'm trying to make an FM synth and have ran into a problem. My goal was to make a 4 op FM synth with a matrix so every operator can modulate any other/itself. 

So far I have 2 operators, and everything's working except for when I want to modulate op 2 with op 1. As I increase the amplitude, it sounds like it's just adding the value of the dial to the phasor's output instead of adding the operator signal. But when I do it the other way around, modulating op 1 with op 2, it works perfectly. The two operators are identical in the gen patcher, so I'm at a loss for what the problem is.

Basically, I'm unable to increase op 1's amplitude in order to modulate op 2.

In the gen patcher below, I disconnected the cycle from the multiplier because the DSP won't work upon startup if it's connected. After DSP is turned on, when I connect them, DSP will work but the result is the same. It just adds the dial's value to the phasor of op 2, which is what it does without the patch cable connected.

It's probably something simple, but again I'm new to Max.

EDIT: got it sorted out, needed a history operator because there was a feedback loop.

I'm still pretty new to Max and gen~, but I'm trying...

problem-with-gen-fm-synth

Problem with gen~ FM synth

ShelLuser

No, manuals aren't for wussies these days anymore, they're for 

. There's a reason why we can access the reference section right from within our patcher window.

Anywhoo...  My browser "soft favorited" the 

 because I often refer to this on Reddit (no, not RTFM commnents; while explaining the issue at hand and providing references to how I would solve things).

I mean, even the gen~ reference page only lists the gen tutorial ("gen topic") in its "See also" section yet 

More seriously though: this seems like a major oversight to me. Yah, gen~ 

 huge (still is!), but ... [gen] can seriously help you to avoid having to use [defer].

Hi gang!

No, manuals aren't for wussies these days anymore, they're for pro's. There's a reason why we can access the reference section...

why-is-the-gen-reference-page-burried

Why is the [gen] reference page burried?

Martin D

I'm using GenExpr for the first time, and I have a strange issue.

I have a function with three input parameters that should return the value of input 1 or 2 depending on the value of input 3. Returning the parameter variables directly causes the conditional return to never happen, but it does work if I reassign the inputs to a new variable and return that instead. 

Meaning I am able to get it to work, but I don't understand why this is, so I wanted to post here in case someone knows something or it's a bug. I haven't found anything similar mentioned in docs or other posts. FYI I'm working in Max For Live, but I've had no other issues that I know of. Thanks.

I'm working only in Max For Live so a video was faster. To the right is the value of [out3] of [gen~] in a different window. 

GenExpr - func w/ conditional returns fails to return input variable unless assigned to new variable

genexpr-func-w-conditional-returns-fails-to-return-input-variable-unless-assigned-to-new-variable

vichug

This is not such a big deal, since you can give a default value to a gen param as a first argument and other [param]'s attributes should work ; but apparently if you give a default value to a gen [param ] operator using the "@default" attribute, it doesn't work ; the param won't have the value you've given it as a default. Attached is a very simple example : if you click on the yellow arrow on the edge of object box in edit mode, then go in "attribute" tab you should see that "aparam" is set to 0 and "anotherparam" to 1, whereas they should both be 1 because i used the @default attribute for "aparam". sorry if this is a bit tedious

gens-param-operators-attribute-default-doesnt-work

That's been logged internally as a bug now (ticket #9897 for whatever that's worth).

gen~'s [param] operator's attribute "@default" doesn't work

hcenteno

I created a Gen~ patch that just contains a Codebox and inlets and outlets. I created it giving it a name as parameter and I can see a gendsp file was created.  I'm able to use it in new patches but for some reason in either the original patch where I created it or in new patches I'm now unable to edit it (I want to ad some nodes).  I can open it and see the contents but editing is disabled everywhere. I can probably just copy and paste the code into a new editable one, but I'm curious to know why is editing disabled. Is this a bug or am I missing something? I'm using Max 8.6.2 on Windows 11.

I created a Gen~ patch that just contains a Codebox and inlets and outlets. I created it giving it a name as parameter and I can see a...

unable-to-edit-gen-patch

Unable to edit Gen~ patch

Yueting Wu

I am trying to create a readable wavetable within gen~ using the data object 

since I need the patch to work for Oopsy daisy, the patch cannot refer to any external buffers in max

The closest answer I was able to get was this post:

https://forum.electro-smith.com/t/oopsy-wavetable-synth-without-reading-from-sd-card/3736

--using the codebox object to manually input sample values of waveforms into the data object 

The OP's patch (basic waveform oscillator) works, but when trying to add new waveforms to the patch, I ran into issues: 

I obtained sample values (256 samples) of the single-cycle waveforms from 

https://www.adventurekid.se/akrt/waveforms/

 and input those values into the codebox, I received the following errors

I double checked and the list of values I put in indeed contained 256 items, so I am confused about why it "exceeded the maximum of 256"...and then I checked the amount of items in the lists that OP put in, and they actually contained less than 256 values (250&248 respectively)...so I just deleted the last few values from my list....the error disappeared but still there is something wrong:

It seems like it's reading the new waveform I put in twice as fast as it should????

I am very new to all this and not sure if I am doing something wrong here,  or if there is any other ways of creating a wavetable completely within gen~ 

*"Datawavetable" contains OP's waveform, "datawavetable2" contains the waveform I tried to put in 

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