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melt

FYI, I am running Max v9.0.8 on Win10. (EDIT: just updated to v9.1.4 -- same behavior)

I have been building a looper patch as a personal project to learn gen and genexpr. I have been chasing down the source of some clicks I've been noticing, particularly at the loop point. My investigations have led me here:

I created the most basic of looping patches in order to test splat's behavior.

A counter continuously runs, feeding the sample index of both the splat (writing, when rec>0) and wave (reading, always). When rec=1 it fades in the audio input (in2) to the input of splat.

When I use splat there is a click at the loop point after I record in audio that crosses said point. When I put poke in its place, there is no click. It seems unrelated to overdub modes, all of which I tried. Same behavior: splat clicks on the loop point, poke doesn't. 

I recorded two very similar loops (same program material) - one with poke and one with splat - exported the buffer contents and am analyzing them in Reaper. I don't know how accurate Reaper is for sample-level analysis, but this is what I see. 

You can see there is a discrepancy. It looks like splat's write pass is offset by a sample. It begins writing at sample 1 and ends at sample N (where N is the loop length, in this case 240000 samples). Poke is writing at sample 0 and ending at sample N-1, as expected.  

I would have expected splat's interpolation to deal with this, but it does make sense that this would create a click as there is a discontinuity between the loop end and loop start, which is not present with the poke version.

Is this a bug with splat? Or is it something else inherent to splat? Admittedly I 

 to use splat for its interpolation, so using poke is not a valid alternative.

I think the documentation for splat is incorrect. Specifically the "overdubmode" attribute.

This would imply that when not specifying the overdubmode attribute, it would default to "accum." However this is not the case. It seems to default to "mix."

Hi, 

FYI, I am running Max v9.0.8 on Win10. (EDIT: just updated to v9.1.4 -- same behavior)

Issue 1

I have been building a looper patch...

splat-couple-of-bugs

Splat - couple of bugs?

protozoa

I could use a little help integrating either grooveduck or zero crossing faders into the phasor-based sample slicer in gen~. Ideally only a slight delay would be introduced to smooth out amplitude discontinuities. I'm much more comfortable programming in Max but I'm having a hard time with learning gen. I've been working at this for a long time but I'm hoping someone here has the knowledge and skill to do this in a few minutes.

beat slicer and grooveduck and zerox.maxpat

I could use a little help integrating either grooveduck or zero crossing faders into the phasor-based sample slicer in gen~. Ideally only a...

integrating-grooveduck-or-zero-crossings-into-phasor-based-beat-slicer

integrating grooveduck or zero-crossings into phasor-based beat slicer

Dan Gayle

Currently, composing gen~ algorithms from reusable abstractions requires working at the visual patcher level. It would be very useful to be able to invoke a gen abstraction as a function call from within a GenExpr.

 (which loads a .gendsp abstraction) and 

 (which drives named parameters inside a subpatcher) are both exclusively visual objects. There is no equivalent within GenExpr codebox code. The only related construct in GenExpr is 

 (capital P), which declares an externally-drivable parameter, but requires passing params via 

This means that if you're authoring a complex algorithm inside a codebox, you cannot call out to an abstraction. You have to either inline everything, or split your design across mixed codebox/visual-patcher layers, which can get unwieldy.

Something along the lines of this would be cool, no need for complex import statements:

out1, out2 = gen("example.filter", in1, freq: cutoff, q: resonance);

This would allow building modular, composable DSP algorithms entirely within the codebox authoring context, treating abstractions as first-class callable units rather than requiring a context switch to visual patching just to wire in a subpatcher.

Currently, composing gen~ algorithms from reusable abstractions requires working at the visual patcher level. It would be very useful to be...

feature-request-subpatcher-invocation-from-within-codebox-genexpr

Feature request: subpatcher invocation from within codebox / GenExpr

TONESTRØM

Hej Gen~ maxers. I am trying to figure out this schematic and how to translate it into gen~objects. I have prior experience with building a biquad filter, compressor and a reverb.

The schematic that I am using is figure 3 from this research paper (

http://dafx13.nuim.ie/papers/44.dafx2013_submission_56.pdf

) on making a digital model of the buchla lowpass-gate. The paper has links to the patch that was made for the research paper however every time I try to assemble and run all of the max, poly~ and gen~ code it crashes, but there is a link here if this is helpful;

http://research.spa.aalto.fi/publications/papers/dafx13-lpg/?fbclid=IwAR2GMveRxqI65fJ009-BNA-WTLq2j1yickvBF5JwqwfYzYQsT23bl3zuCfA

So far I have managed to model something up that resembles the figur 3, however I ran into problems while I was making the model. (I probably want to do something which is not permitted in this type of domain but I don't know I am still just trying to wrap my head around gen~) My problem is that the feedback elements (a2, b2, b3, d1 & d2) cannot connect with my [integral] or [d/dt] nested gen objects in the gen~ patcher.

I have tried to compensate for this by adding the history object so that there will be -1 sample delay that allows the feedback to happen, but of course this does not work!

- I don't know why I can't connect these feedbacks with the [integral] or [d/dt], what is the reason behind this?

- Is it possible to run the code that was used for the paper without having it crash all of the time?

01072021_LC_LPG_Gen.zip

Hej Gen~ maxers. I am trying to figure out this schematic and how to translate it into gen~objects. I have prior experience with building a 

gen~-no-acumulator-integral-symbol-feedback-in-patch

Gen~ no acumulator(integral symbol) feedback in patch

Jonatan Snapir

Noticed this odd behaviour: when copying contents of a buffer to another buffer, dimensions of the original buffer inside a gen~ object momentarily drop to 1. Maybe this is a bug?

Here's a patcher that shows this behaviour:

Noticed this odd behaviour: when copying contents of a buffer to another buffer, dimensions of the original buffer inside a gen~ object...

copying-buffer-contents-causes-glitch-in-gen

Copying buffer contents causes glitch in gen~

NICK@ HALEY

I would like to recreate "Kilohearts Compactor" for my patches.

Everything is pretty straight forward but i'm stuck with the look-ahead attack part.

I tried to delay the dry signal while adjusting delay for the attack (fade-in) portion of the side-chain, 

Gen Forum