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Dje Sparr

I have been discovering M4L for a few days and my poor English absolutely does not help me advance in my search.

Until then, for a few years I worked my bass on Guitar Pro and Ableton which had the role of an instrument. Guitar Pro has a very useful asset for work, which is not found elsewhere, it is the management of the % tempo, per range of +/-5%.

To summarize: when reading the score, we select the tempo and the "-" & "+" keys on the keyboard allow you to increase or decrease the tempo in a range of 5%. There is also a drop-down menu with a certain number of % to choose from and there is also the solution to fill in the tempo we want this time in bpm.

The disadvantage is that all this is not controllable in MiDi...

The idea would therefore be to export the pieces, exercises etc... from GP to Ableton in MiDi and use M4L to build a work tool that would respond to this:

So I started writing a patch by inquiring here and there. I will propose it to you below in image format but also in writing, maybe the study, the correction this one can interest you!

At this stage, I am not getting the desired result, and for a total novice at the start of this project, it is not necessary to have already spent a few hours there! )

Variation of the Ableton tempo in % (MIDI)

gestion-du-tempo-au-percent

Julien Bayle

observing property playing_slot_index works fine (since 2011) but I noticed that it notifies also if you just add a note or edit the midi content of the clip, which is probably a kind of logic for some people but not for some others.

Actually, you play a clip. live.observer detects the one you play, fine.

You manipulate the content, it notifies again.

Live 12.2.1 / Max 9.0.7 (the one provided with Live)

Of course, working around it is possible as there are two different temporalities (in my process, at least): playing (and using the index for doing something, here triggering a markov chain :-)  & editing, so I can gate it and create kind of edit/play modes.

But wanted to report it as I didn't see it somewhere but maybe not looked for enough.

Observing playing_slot_index of a MIDI Clip notifies also if you edit clip content ?!

observing-playingslotindex-of-a-midi-clip-notifies-also-if-you-edit-midi-contet

chapelier fou

I never worked with clocks and Max/MSP before so pardon my newbiness inthe domain... 

but whenever I start the metro, notes are blocked. Maybe because of the "per channel" nature of Live's tracks ? i guess that MIDI clock doesn't have a channel... 

But is there a way ? I've seen this device 

https://maxforlive.com/library/device/6651/clock

I never worked with clocks and Max/MSP before so pardon my newbiness inthe domain... 
I thought this rough patch would work : 
 
but wheneve

m4l-how-to-send-midi-clock-to-a-synth-from-a-track

M4L : How to send MIDI clock to a synth from a Track ?

Uasmi Nasser

I'm trying to find the information on that topic but can't. Is there any way to check if the required package from package manager is installed on the Max for Live bundled version, and if not - install it? 

Hey everyone,

I'm trying to find the information on that topic but can't. Is there any way to check if the required package from package...

check-package-and-install-on-max-for-live-device-load

Check package and install on Max for Live Device load

Morgan

I'm trying an idea to use the clip envelopes as a way to store presets to clips. I think that the clip automation is the way that Ableton intends for clips to start with distinct parameters, but editing them can be cumbersome.

There seem to be no LOM calls for editing clip envelopes the way that there are for clip notes.

What's the reasoning behind that? Was it that recording is the intended method to automate things?

I'm trying an idea to use the clip envelopes as a way to store presets to clips. I think that the clip automation is the way that Ableton in

programatic-clip-envelope-editing

Programatic Clip Envelope Editing??

spin lud

I have just found that Ableton beats counting is a bit weird.

I have a test project with 2 bars in 4/4, 2 bars in 6/8 and then again 4/4.

To debug what's going on the Ableton internal counter, at each tick I have logged bars/beats/sub_division/ticks, song time (expressed in beats, not in ms as reported by documentation) and time signature.

As you can notice, when time signature switch from 4/4 to 6/8 Ableton BEATS=5 (does not reset to BEATS=1), because Ableton computes bars/beats/sub_division/ticks reasoning as the current time signature is the same for the entire song. So when it switched to 6/8 Ableton does the computation as the whole song is in 6/8.

This is even more evident in the transition back from  6/8 to 4/4. You will notice that the BARS count decrease (from BARS=5 to BARS=4):

BARS=5 BEATS=4 SUB=2 TICKS=53 | TIME=13.966938775510204 | SIGNATURE=6/8

BARS=4 BEATS=3 SUB=1 TICKS=2 | TIME=14.006938775510203 | SIGNATURE=4/4

This is because when switching back to 4/4, Ableton consider the entire song in 4/4 and update the time values accordingly.

The issue is that I find impossible to detect the real (musical) downbeat when a time signature changes like this occur. For musical downbeat I mean the real first beat of a bar (the one we hear with a different sound when we activate the metronome). To do that we should know every possible signature change in the project, but we can't assume to start the project always from the beginning and detect all the signature changes along the way.

Has anyone managed to find a solution to this problem? I tried but failed miserably.

The only way I have found is to add a listener to a button on the controller to manually compute a beat offset when a beat misalignment occur due to time signature change and apply that offset to the beat reported by Ableton. Better than nothing 🤷‍♂️

I have just found that Ableton beats counting is a bit weird.

I have a test project with 2 bars in 4/4, 2 bars in 6/8 and then again...

help-needed-find-real-downbeat-in-case-of-signature-changes

Help needed: find real downbeat in case of signature changes

Loïc Le Roux

I'm looking for a way to make (or find) a device with a simple button that say : 

It would create an automation with a single breakpoint on each parameter ( like aux sends, volume, pan, plugins, clip gain...). 

A great feature would be "except ( - Track On/off - clip - mixer - plugin...)" and delete .

I can't find a way with Live Object Model (except call_clear_automation) and i'm still a beginner with Max.

Hello,

I'm looking for a way to make (or find) a device with a simple button that say : store all Clip's parameters! for a selected clip....

using-clips-envelopes-to-store-all-clips-parameters

Using Clip's envelopes to "store" all Clip's parameters

Diemo Schwarz

An open question for M4L makers: Has anyone done anything to automate (at least partly) the build and distribution process of a M4L device? For me, it still involves manual steps that I'd like to avoid (by some Apple scripting magic maybe?)

1. clean out all those pesky unfrozen externals and subpatches that Live scatters everywhere on the system and that can possibly be picked up with the new  build

2. open a new Live set, add the source device

3. freeze and save to the distribution dir

An open question for M4L makers: Has anyone done anything to automate (at least partly) the build and distribution process of a M4L device?...

automating-m4l-builds

Automating M4L builds?

Leo Monti

So basically this patch should receive the parent track's name and remove it's first letter. As the title says, this event should happen right between someone pressing "del" on live (or any form of deletion command) and the device actually being deleted. 

I can't for the life of my wrap my head around editing or changing the priority queue.

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