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strange one to come across, just want to make sure it's not just me, can anyone confirm(i'm on a new M1 MacBookPro, 14-inch, 2021, M1, 32GB RAM), simply instantiating a 'jit.playlist' object causes Max to immediately crash to the desktop everytime, so long as 'qt' is chosen as the video engine.

1) open Max, and go into 'Preferences', making sure that 'qt' is chosen as the video engine

2) from within Max, create a new blank patcher

3) instantiate a jit.playlist object(just type 'jit.playlist' into an empty object box and tab/click out to instantiate)

expected results: upon creation, Max should continue running as normal creating a blank jit.playlist object with its default appearance

additional info: on my M1 mac, i notice that switching the gl engine doesn't require restart if the engine is 'qt', but just mentioning here, i tried both gl2 and gl3, they both crash if the video-engine is 'qt', but everything runs fine with 'avf', or 'viddll' engines(no matter the gl selection on those two... we're probably moving to 'metal' soon, anyways(?), and this is more a conflict with video-engines than gl-engine... but just thought i'd try out switching gl-engine to see if that might add some helpful info. here... there ya have it 😇).

strange one to come across, just want to make sure it's not just me, can anyone confirm(i'm on a new M1 MacBookPro, 14-inch, 2021, M1, 32GB RAM), simply instantiating a 'jit.playlist' object causes Max to immediately crash to the desktop everytime, so long as 'qt' is chosen as the video engine.
steps to repro:
1) open Max, and go into 'Preferences', making sure that 'qt' is chosen as the video engine
2) from within Max, create a new blank patcher
3) instantiate a jit.playlist object(just type 'jit.playlist' into an empty object box and tab/click out to instantiate)
results:
max crashes to desktop
expected results: upon creation, Max should continue running as normal creating a blank jit.playlist object with its default appearance
additional info: on my M1 mac, i notice that switching the gl engine doesn't require restart if the engine is 'qt', but just mentioning here, i tried both gl2 and gl3, they both crash if the video-engine is 'qt', but everything runs fine with 'avf', or 'viddll' engines(no matter the gl selection on those two... we're probably moving to 'metal' soon, anyways(?), and this is more a conflict with video-engines than gl-engine... but just thought i'd try out switching gl-engine to see if that might add some helpful info. here... there ya have it 😇).

strange one to come across, just want to make sure it's not just me, can anyone confirm(i'm on a new M1 MacBookPro, 14-inch, 2021, M1, 32GB 

jit-playlist-crashes-reliably-upon-instantiation-on-m1-macbookpro

in general qt should never be used, it remains in place only for the case of windows max-for-live users when the viddll engine is not installed. I will look into removing it as an option for mac. thanks for the report.

Thank you, Rob! 
(i understand now: got a new mac, the installer defaulted max to startup with 'qt', i've always used 'viddll' on mac)... almost thought i found a reliable crash with jit.vcr too(a freeze that only happens when i click 'write' to jit.vcr... happens often, been trying to use it alot for 'Jamuary', sometimes frustrating to force-quit so much, but i'll keep searching for the exact context...), i used to use syphon, i realize there are other options, but today it worked perfectly(after i deleted two vst~ objects), so i want to keep trying to use it.
anyways, it worked nicely just now, so i do this happy dance for you:


Thank you, immensely, especially in difficult times, with work/life/depression/anxiety/etc. this expressive-environment helps makes that little bit of precious, creative energy travel so much farther, when what little of it does comes around 🦾🔥❤️

🎶❤️ Step by step Raja. Sending you ☀️

jit.playlist crashes (reliably upon instantiation) on M1 MacBookPro

Annie

I want to control a servo motor (connected to an Arduino MEGA Board) via OSC in MAX MSP for a cool audio project.

I managed to read several potentiometers via OSC and to switch on LEDs, but I didn't find a way to dim these LEDS nor send values to my servo.

Using a code / patch I found to only switch between ON and OFF for the LEDs (But I'm not entirely sure which part of the code does this).

So I need something to actually send values to my LED or servo to make them fade.

I can't use Maxuino or any other kind of workarounds, it's a university project and we're supposed to use OSC.

I want to control a servo motor (connected to an Arduino MEGA Board) via OSC in MAX MSP for a cool audio project.
I managed to read several potentiometers via OSC and to switch on LEDs, but I didn't find a way to dim these LEDS nor send values to my servo. 

Using a code / patch I found to only switch between ON and OFF for the LEDs (But I'm not entirely sure which part of the code does this).
So I need something to actually send values to my LED or servo to make them fade. 

Any chance to control outputs via OSC?
I can't use Maxuino or any other kind of workarounds, it's a university project and we're supposed to use OSC.

servo-via-arduino-via-osc-to-max

OSC or serial or whatever.
You want first to learn how to control servo motor in Arduino,
or how to fade a LED. (pwm)
Forget about  complicated tutorials, first learn LED fading using analog.write(value 0 - 255 here);
and Servo motor control using myServo.write( value 0 - 179 here);
When You've learned that, next step is how to send this 2 values from Max
to arduino to control servo motor movement of LED fading.
OSC in Arduino syntax has it's learning curve, but
If You are at university than they are supposed to teach You how to do stuff or ?


Hey, thanks for the reply. I'm totally able to do all you said, but the tricky part starts with OSC. I was hoping for someone to tell me how to write a method in Arduino to control the dimming of an LED / servo via OSC.


Hi, Annie.
That is what I mean.
If You don't know how to send and receive 2 values form Max to Arduino,
using whatever serial or OSC, then it gets difficult.
Did You read any tutorials, or tried any examples ?
I guess You are using CNMAT osc stuff, read the text at :

https://github.com/CNMAT/OSC
there is part titled "Receiving Data"
-----------
here is arduino sketch, that You could study :

#include 
#include 
#include 
#ifdef BOARD_HAS_USB_SERIAL
#include 
SLIPEncodedUSBSerial SLIPSerial( thisBoardsSerialUSB );
#else
#include 
 SLIPEncodedSerial SLIPSerial(Serial1);
#endif
Servo myServo;
int ledPin = 2;
void setup() {SLIPSerial.begin(9600); myServo.attach(3); pinMode(2, OUTPUT); }
// servo motor on pin 3, LED on pin 2 ...

void loop() { OSCBundle bundleIN; int size;
while(!SLIPSerial.endofPacket())
if( (size =SLIPSerial.available()) > 0)
{while(size--)bundleIN.fill(SLIPSerial.read());}
if(!bundleIN.hasError())
bundleIN.dispatch("/led", LEDcontrol); bundleIN.dispatch("/servo", SERVOcontrol)
}
void LEDcontrol(OSCMessage &msg)
{if (msg.isInt(0)) {analogWrite(ledPin, (msg.getInt(0));}}

void SERVOcontrol(OSCMessage &msg)
{if (msg.isInt(0)) { myServo.write((msg.getInt(1));}}

// this should receive /led 0 - 255  and /servo 0 - 180 and control LED brightness
// and Servo Motor position


Hey,
great! Thank you so far.
This is actually what i was searching for!

Right now i'm sending data from a (0-127) dial with "prepend led/0" via "opensoundcountrol"-object and the "openSlip"-object.
So i can see what you've changed but it's still not working with the communication between Max and Arduino.

Can you give me an example of how a working max patch could look like ?

You should send exactly what is also expected in Arduino
/led and then value 0 -255.
So You need to change dial range to 256.
/led $1
for servo the same, just servo needs range 0 -180
------
message could contain the bang es well :
{/led $1, bang}  going straight to OpenSoundControl
And please read that section on the link.
If You'd have done that, it would be clear to You that
/led/0 and then value is wrong, because only zero would be sent to LED pin, and not the following number.
I have simplified the receiving string to just /led and the value.
----------
here is Arduino patch, it seems that pasting here did remove some chars, very strange.


Hey,
thanks for your help.  I finally managed to control my servos and address them correctly. Now I'm trying to use the "preset" object to store different positions to easily recall values. It's not working properly, I reckon it's more a problem of power supply or the lack of using shields for the servos. I'll figure something out.
Big thanks again!
Cheers
-Annie


Hi Annie, sorry to hear You are still struggling with that.
What is actually not working ?
Preset store/recall ? Or Motor Driving electronic ?
What is power demand of Your Servo Motors ?
You probably have to supply external power for them to work,
only very small motors can be driven directly from Arduino pins.


Hi, Source Audio! 

I am trying to figure out the examples you sent here. 

I am using Annie's code in Max and your code in Arduino with a servo attached. 

I does not seem to work. 
BTW, I had to change SLIPEncodedSerial SLIPSerial(Serial1); to SLIPEncodedSerial SLIPSerial(Serial);
I hope that was the right thing to do as I don't have a Serial1 in Arduino. 

Any suggestions on making this work?
Thank you so much!

Ok. I finally managed to control the servo using the demo code in the SerialReceiveWithServo

Do you really need all that OSC stuff ?
Servo only needs to receive single int for position control.
Can be done with Serial.parseInt() for any number of servos attatched.
here 3 servos example


#include <Servo.h>
Servo myservo1;  Servo myservo2;  Servo myservo3;
int pos1 = 0;  int pos2 = 0; int pos3 = 0; 
void setup() {Serial.begin(9600);
myservo1.attach(9); myservo2.attach(10);myservo3.attach(11);
 }
void loop() {
if (Serial.available() > 0) {
int pos1 = Serial.parseInt(); int  pos2 = Serial.parseInt(); int  pos3 = Serial.parseInt(); 
if (Serial.read() == '\n') {
myservo1.write(pos1); myservo2.write(pos2); myservo3.write(pos3);
delay(10);}
}}


In the end I would like to send data from Max to a robot running on arduino teensy + Wifi shield or ESP (don't know yet which one would be better). So the data will be sent wirelessly and there will be 5 motors (4 brushless motors -oDrive brand- and 1 stepper) to control. I was thinking that OSC would be useful in this case as it works via UTP and it parses multiple streams of data easily. 

Do you think I can skip OSC also in the configuration mentioned above? 

I want to control it via wifi and not via RC RF because I would also want to control it via internet so this way it is much easier. 

Thank you for the patch and the help!!  :)

PS: I am going to control the motors with a gamepad attached to the pc running Max 

Post the code you would use on arduino to run the motors,
ignoring which way control values would come in.
Make simple test run sketch with few values per motor
in a loop, test that everything works and then post it here.

I think you could do with single ESP32 board
but I can't tell more without seeing the code
for the motors.




This is the Max code I am using. It takes either a gamepad or a joystick (or an iPhone but that's a different story). You have the following options:
- set which controller to use
- set what type of tag to use: multiple slashes OSC tag, single slash OSC tag, no slash tag, or no tag at all
- set what type of output to have: UDP or Serial
- set to send either float or integer values
- set low and high values for the 2 joysticks the gamepad comes with or the values for the big joystick (different hardware)
The patch comes with a txt file for saving the settings via [coll] 

I set all this just to know I have options. For now I tested the patch by controlling a servo and 2 LEDs. The servo I controlled with the x axis of the left joystick of the gamepad. And I controlled the LEDs (on and off) with the A and B buttons. I set the buttons to send either 0 or 255 as values. I am using a Logitech F310 gamepad. 


12, l 5;
6, f 6;
1, a 0;
2, b 1;
11, k 1;
4, d 192.168.100.28;
5, e 6666;
8, h 0;
9, i 0;
10, j 0;
3, c 1;
13, m 1 0. 178. -2000. 2000. -2000. 2000. -2000. 2000. -2000. 2000. -2000. 2000.;


And here is the arduino code I am using to control the servo and the 2 LEDs

/*
* Control a servo and 2 leds according to incoming OSC control 
*/
#include <OSCBundle.h>
#include <OSCBoards.h>
#include <Servo.h>

// OSC Related
#ifdef BOARD_HAS_USB_SERIAL
#include <SLIPEncodedUSBSerial.h>
SLIPEncodedUSBSerial SLIPSerial( thisBoardsSerialUSB );
#else
#include <SLIPEncodedSerial.h>
 SLIPEncodedSerial SLIPSerial(Serial);
#endif

Servo myservo;
int led1Pin = 12; 
int led2Pin = 8; 

void servoControl(OSCMessage &msg)
{
  if (msg.isInt(0))
    {
     myservo.write(msg.getInt(0));
     }
}

void LED1control(OSCMessage &msg)
 {
  if (msg.isInt(0)) 
  {
   analogWrite(led1Pin, (msg.getInt(0)));
  }
 }

void LED2control(OSCMessage &msg)
 {
  if (msg.isInt(0)) 
  {
    analogWrite(led2Pin, (msg.getInt(0)));
  }
 }

void setup() {
  SLIPSerial.begin(115200); // Serial baud

   myservo.attach(3); // Pin 3 for servo
    myservo.write(90);
    pinMode(8, OUTPUT); // Pin 11 for LED
    pinMode(12, OUTPUT); // Pin 12 for LED
 

#if ARDUINO >= 100
    while(!Serial)
      ;   // Leonardo bug
#endif
}

 // OSC related
  OSCBundle bundleIN;
  int size;
  while(!SLIPSerial.endofPacket())
    if( (size =SLIPSerial.available()) > 0)
    {
       while(size--)
          bundleIN.fill(SLIPSerial.read());
     }

 // Parse OSC messages according to tag
  if(!bundleIN.hasError())
   bundleIN.dispatch("/gp_ljx", servoControl);
   bundleIN.dispatch("/gp_a", LED1control); 
   bundleIN.dispatch("/gp_b", LED2control); 

Everything works for now. 

Next step is to test the stepper motor and the 2 oDrive brushless motors https://odriverobotics.com/ and https://docs.odriverobotics.com/ using the Serial

And afterwards I will test via UDP because like I said, the robot will be wireless. I tested a few weeks ago to control an ESP via UPD and OSC, but I lost the code due to HDD failure. So I am trying to figure out how to make this code work via UDP.

So any suggestions? :)

ESP32 itself is not a problem, beside the fact that it has no usual analogwrite
function. One has to use extra libs for that, and pick one of several choices.

But the problem I see is UDP over Internet, if I understand you correctly,
you want to send data using OSC UDP on local wifi net, but also send
controls from web browser.
Did you know of a way to send OSC UDP from standard web browser out of the box?
-------------

Here is ESP32 example to receive /srv $1 $2 $3 $4 $5 string from Max
and unpack it 
But you need to decide at the end what is more efficient - to send full string
and parse it, or to send individual controls, which might reduce data a lot.

#include <WiFi.h>
#include <WiFiUdp.h>
#include <OSCMessage.h>
#include <OSCBundle.h>
#include <OSCData.h>

char ssid[] = "enter your ssid here";
char pass[] = "enter password here";

WiFiUDP Udp;
const unsigned int localPort = 8888; // incoming UDP port

void setup() {
WiFi.begin(ssid, pass);
Udp.begin(localPort);
}

void servos(OSCMessage &msg) {
int SRV1 = msg.getInt(0); // 1st servo value
int SRV2 = msg.getInt(1); // 2nd servo value
int SRV3 = msg.getInt(2); // 3rd servo value
int SRV4 = msg.getInt(3); // 4th servo value
int SRV5 = msg.getInt(4); // 5th servo value
}

void loop() {OSCMessage msg; int size = Udp.parsePacket();
if (size > 0) {while (size--) {msg.fill(Udp.read());}
if (!msg.hasError()) {msg.dispatch("/srv", servos);} 
}}


-------------------

Being lazy to look for IPs , I use broadcasting for home testing....

<< But the problem I see is UDP over Internet, if I understand you correctly, you want to send data using OSC UDP on local wifi net, but also send controls from web browser. Did you know of a way to send OSC UDP from standard web browser out of the box? >> 

I will not use a web browser for controlling the robot. I will control it from Max via Wifi. And I was thinking of using OSC for that. And to my knowledge, I need to send OSC data via udpsend. 

And for controlling it over the internet, I will just send the controller data via udpsend as well. Like this. 

Remote PC -> OSC -> Local PC -> OSC -> robot. 

I guess I can send directly from the remote PC to the robot, but considering that the local PC needs to take over anytime, I consider it is best that the Remote PC data be sent to the Local PC and then on to the robot. 

Nice trick with the broadcasting :D

I will test your code asap. But I don't get what you mean by << But you need to decide at the end what is more efficient - to send full string and parse it, or to send individual controls, which might reduce data a lot. >> 

Which is better? A string and parse it or individual controls? 
And how would individual controls reduce data?

Thank you so much!

If you don't plan to control ESP32 via web browser directly using UDP all is ok.

Question about string or individual controls.
simple answer :
in case of /srv $1 $2 $3 $4 $5  
all 5 values will get sent out even if only 1 member of 5 items changed.
In case of separated osc messages :

/srv1 $1 
/srv2 $1
etc
you send a single value only if it changed and parse it individually in arduino.
If you anyway expect all 5 values above to be frequently updated, 
than /srv $1 $2 $3 $4 $5    would be a better choice.
If you expect one or two to be moved frequently, and the rest once in a while,
than separated osc messages would be more efficient.
That is a difference.
Same applies to joystick - if you send only axis values
that really moved, or collect all current values into list and send the list.
--------
In a complex project, like your one seems to be, one has to well plan
efficiency of data streams and try to keep osc strings short.

Why would you use 
/MyProject/MyControls/Robot1/leftarm/ $1
if /r1a $1 would do ?
it is not only number of needed bytes, but also code gets sooo looong on the screen.


Thank you so much for the explanations!

<< Why would you use  /MyProject/MyControls/Robot1/leftarm/ $1 if /r1a $1 would do ? >> 
Yeap. This is what I did. I first used /gamepad/leftJoystick/x and then I also made an option to just send /gp_ljx
:D

I will test the sketch you sent for ESP and will let you know! 
Cheers!!

 Hello 
I am also interested in this subject, I do not understand one thing: on  which pins are connected the servo? They are not defined in the code.
Thanks !


 @ sourceaudio : I do not understand one thing : on  which pins are connected the servo? They are not defined in the code. Thanks !

that code is just example how to send values to esp32.
to use the values for servo control, you need to
map received values to servo controls.
You can learn that from using examples
in servo library


Servo via Arduino via OSC to MAX

Dylan Marelic

Super new to max msp and trying to build a simple rhythm generator based on a string of integers.

The goal is for a string like [2 4 12 16] to produce a trigger on each of those beats.

So far I have made a step counter using a phasor~ with a sample and hold. I am stuck trying to output a click or impluse when/if the sample and hold output is equal to more than just one specific value.

Screenshot 2022-01-12 232732.jpg

In this example an impulse is generated when the signal reaches ~3.

is it poossible to have an impulse when said signal reaches lets say 1, 3, 7, 9, 11 and12 without having to fan out the patch into streams for each value?

hello everyone! 
Super new to max msp and trying to build a simple rhythm generator based on a string of integers.
The goal is for a string like [2 4 12 16] to produce a trigger on each of those beats.
So far I have made a step counter using a phasor~ with a sample and hold. I am stuck trying to output a click or impluse when/if  the sample and hold output is equal to more than just one specific value.  


In this example an impulse is generated when the signal reaches ~3.
is it poossible to have an impulse  when said signal reaches lets say 1, 3, 7, 9, 11 and12 without having to fan out the patch into streams for each value?

hello everyone! 
Super new to max msp and trying to build a simple rhythm generator based on a string of integers.
The goal is for a string 

trying-to-generate-an-impulse-when-signal-passes-through-a-discrete-values-in-a-list

Using the structure you have built, I added a select (sel) object which bangs when equal to the set arguments, and I connected it to a click~ object which sends impulses. I used your example of sending impulses when the signal reaches  1, 3, 7, 9, 11 and 12. I hope this helps. I've attached the patch below:


delta and sah and then measuring at 0.5 instead of 1 to 0 transition seems right.

but you can also measure at the transition, simply like that:

[phasor~]
[delta~]
[!-~ 0.]



Thank you for your response Jake! :)
yes this is more or less what im trying to do, although I think this process leads to some considerable timing inaccuracy. As the sample rate signal is being converted to a float, then to a msp message, then back to up sample rate the new click is sometimes almost half a beat behind the actual clock. 
I'd love to know if there is a solution in the sample rate domain for more than one value?

Thanks for the tip Roman! i was struggling to get transition reading at exactly 0

I would check out this page, which describes using phasor for timing purposes.  It might have information that could help you. Why are you looking to build a rhythm generator in the sample rate domain? Another thought I had is to use global transport and transport, and have the setup trigger events at certain bars/beats/ticks.

this is page is really helpful thanks!
i think you are right, i should probably just be using a counter driven by edge~.
I just really like the signal workflow and was hoping to stay there.

and forget his bang stuff. if you use signal, then only use signal.

Trying to generate an impulse when signal passes through discrete values in a list

benjamin vyger

I'm trying to send at the same 5 datas in the OSC touch M4L instrument.

As you can see in Processing I send 3 int and 1 float, but I receive only the first and the last datas as you can see in the OSC monitor of M4L in Ableton Live.

While I receive all datas in the monitor of MaxMSP.

Hi,
I'm trying to send at the same 5 datas in the OSC touch M4L instrument.
As you can see in Processing I send 3 int and 1 float, but I receive only the first and the last datas as you can see in the OSC monitor of M4L in Ableton Live.


While I receive all datas in the monitor of MaxMSP.


Hi,
I'm trying to send at the same 5 datas in the OSC touch M4L instrument.
As you can see in Processing I send 3 int and 1 float, but I rec

bug-with-osc-touch-m4l-instrument-only-first-and-last-datas-are-received

Bug with OSC TOUCH M4L instrument. Only first and last datas are received. 

Diekgasse

I am trying to create " transpose patcher " and in there always an error occurs and it does not work properly. I have discovered that pfft~ gizmo_loadme has only 1 inlet ( guess supposed to be two inlets ! ) When I open a new patcher and create pfft~ gizmo then there are ALAWAYS 2 inlets but once I closed the file and then open, the right-inlet disappears. 

Screen Shot 2022-01-12 at 13.20.24.png

What should I do?... Anybody could help me with this? 

Hello all, 
I am trying to create " transpose patcher " and in there always an error occurs and it does not work properly. I have discovered that  pfft~ gizmo_loadme has only 1 inlet ( guess supposed to be two inlets ! ) When I open a new patcher and create pfft~ gizmo then there are  ALAWAYS 2 inlets but once I closed the file and then open, the right-inlet disappears. 

What should I do?... Anybody could help me with this? 
Thank you!


Hello all, 
I am trying to create " transpose patcher " and in there always an error occurs and it does not work properly. I have discovered

pfft~-gizmo

Check if you have a duplicate of the file gizmo_loadme in your search path. Or maybe you modified the gizmo patch and saved it...?

I would try copying the contents in the subpatch "gizmo_loadme" and pasting the contents into a new patch. I would save the new patch with a different name than "gizmo_loadme," and then I would load that new patch as the first argument of the pfft~ object so that it becomes the subpatch included. I assume you have an "in 2" or "fftin 2" object connected to an "out 1 or 2" or "fftout 1 or 2" object inside the subpatch, which is essential for creating a functional second inlet. I wish you good luck with this project, and I hope this helps.

pfft~ gizmo

Abletoner Abletoner

Hi, how to control stereo channel with 2 mono volume fader in max to control ableton or whatever daw with midi send for volume and pan where you mix just 2 volumes of mono ?

Hi, how to control stereo channel with 2 mono volume fader in max to control ableton or whatever daw with midi send for volume and  pan where you mix just 2 volumes of mono ?

Hi, how to control stereo channel with 2 mono volume fader in max to control ableton or whatever daw with midi send for volume and  pan wher

control-stereo-channel-with-2-mono-volume-fader-map-for-pan-and-volume

control stereo channel with 2 mono volume fader (map for pan and volume)

aptrn

I need to control Ableton Link toggle via Max For Live for a multimedia system I'm designing.

The LOM documentation states "is_ableton_link_enabled" as a property of "Song", with methods to set, get and observe. 

I tried a in any way I could find to assemble a prototype to get/set that feature, via live.property, live.function, live.object, live.observer with help via live.path but seems they cannot access that property.

In the end, everyone of those do print out on console something like: "'Song' object has no attribute 'is_ableton_link_enabled'".

I don't know if it's a bug or I am making silly mistakes, call me out if you find anything wrong.

I'm on Win10 LTSC, Ableton Live 11.0.12, Max 8.2.0.

A friend on mine tried it out with same results on OSX, don't know his Live/Max versions though.

Checking the LOM documentation further, I found "

This document refers to Ableton Live version 11.1

", which is not release yet, as far as I know. Maybe this could be one of next Live version added features?

I need to control Ableton Link toggle via Max For Live for a multimedia system I'm designing.
The LOM documentation states "is_ableton_link_enabled" as a property of "Song", with methods to set, get and observe. 
I tried a in any way I could find to assemble a prototype to get/set that feature, via live.property, live.function, live.object, live.observer with help via live.path but seems they cannot access that property.
In the end, everyone of those do print out on console something like: "'Song' object has no attribute 'is_ableton_link_enabled'".


I don't know if it's a bug or I am making silly mistakes, call me out if you find anything wrong.

I'm on Win10 LTSC,  Ableton Live 11.0.12,  Max 8.2.0.
A friend on mine tried it out with same results on OSX, don't know his Live/Max versions though.

 Checking the LOM documentation further, I found  "This document refers to Ableton Live version 11.1", which is not release yet, as far as I know. Maybe this could be one of next Live version added features?

Hi everyone,
I need to control Ableton Link toggle via Max For Live for a multimedia system I'm designing.
The LOM documentation states "is_

control-ableton-link-via-lom

Control Ableton Link via LOM

chapelier fou

I'd like to make a device that observes the "solo" state of a Group, and solo all the tracks contained in the group according to this state. 

I can't find a decent way to get the ids of the tracks contained in a group. 

I'd like to make a device that observes the "solo" state of a Group, and solo all the tracks contained in the group according to this state. 
I can't find a decent way to get the ids of the tracks contained in a group. 
Any ideas ? 

I'd like to make a device that observes the "solo" state of a Group, and solo all the tracks contained in the group according to this state.

m4l-get-tracks-contained-in-a-group

I use this 
https://maxforlive.com/library/device/3447/solo-safe

Well, this automatically set solo for the track containing the device whenever  another track is soloed, doesn't it ? 
That's not what I'm looking for. 
I want to solo the tracks that are in the same group only. 

M4L : Get tracks contained in a group ? 

Thomas 

I have built M4L devices that send CC controller values to my keyboard. Everything works perfectly.

When I start the live project, then the last set values are also there.

How do I get the values to be sent when the corresponding track is played or loaded?

Is there a bang I need to send to all controllers so that their outputs are sent once?

Trigger: track is played or trigger: project loaded?

I have another small but big problem.
I have built M4L devices that send CC controller values to my keyboard. Everything works perfectly.
 When I start the live project, then the last set values are also there.
But there is the following problem:
They are not sent!
How do I get the values to be sent when the corresponding track is played or loaded?

Is there a bang I need to send to all controllers so that their outputs are sent once?
Trigger: track is played or trigger: project loaded?

Hello
I have another small but big problem.
I have built M4L devices that send CC controller values to my keyboard. Everything works perfect

m4l-device-does-not-send-values-when-track-is-played

"How do I get the values to be sent when the corresponding track is played or loaded?"
You mean liveset ? It's confusing. Normally, if you used live objects (like live.number) they should output their values when the liveset is loaded. But maybe for some reason, your synth is not "ready" on load ? This could happen, for instance, you send the CCs, and a Program Change just after. 
I this case, try to order your messages, and maybe delay the sending of CCs ? 
If you share your patch it would be much easier to know what's going on. 

Hi
I dont know what liveset does...
I only have a slider and a cc to midiout.
I move the slider and i save the Ableton project.
Next day when I open the project and start the midi clips, no cc is sent to the output.
I have found an object "time... 1 1 0" to send a bang when the cursor is at start of the tracks.
This will bang the slider to send every time I start from 1,1,0
My question is, if there is a better solution?
I'm just looking for a general solution that sends slider values to the keyboard or output once on startup.


Please share the patch. It's too confused to me. 

M4L device does not send values when track is played?

joumik

i still can't get the way to remove those "F" , and separate the 2 numbers (or letters) following , in a list or else .

i 'll try to find out before anybody answers ,

hi all ,
i would lke to do this ,
how would you convert :

FFFFFF27 , to 2 and 7 ,
or , another example :
FFFFFF2E , to 2 and E 

i still can't get the way to remove those "F" , and separate the 2 numbers (or letters) following , in a list or else .
it seems so easy ...

i 'll try to  find out before anybody answers ,
and will triumph .

negative-hexadecimal-conversion-to-integer-without-ffffff-prefix

hi Patrick ,
thanks for the patch ,
that bitwise intersection object obviously seems to be the key ,
 i must admit i don't understand yet ...    that's very cool !
but i'm not sure we're resolving my problem completely ,
maybe it's done 99% , ...
i'll try to explain more .

the hex number we're working on will always be in the range (-255 --> 0) , sorry the range (FFFFFF01 --> 0)
( i know numbers are numbers are numbers , but i think it's important )
for the example of the value  "FFFFFF2E" (-210) ,
i have to remove these FFFFFF ,
then we have 2E , or 2 and E .
i have to perform another conversion , which is (weird ?) :
2 has to be considered as an ASCII character , and converted to a decimal ----> 50
E has to be considered as an ASCII character , and converted to a decimal ----> 69

my problem is that i can't get the letter "E" outputted, from a number box , even if it's displaying hex .
it will only output decimal .

but maybe i have (once again) let some evidence come to me ,
without shaking hands .

i don't think we can fill a message box with a letter , with this (thank you again) patch ,
can we ? 

oooooo
it seems to work perfectly , in all the cases ,

you surely saved me a looot of time ,
i now have to understand this "&" object .

that's a good lesson to learn for me ,
let's go ! 

did you know about the [atoi] object ?
you can also use regular expressions to strip the FFFFFF out of your message and use atoi to process the two remaining caracters...


@(karrrlo): as joumik  pointed out, a number is a number is a number, but it is not a symbol.
What he seems to manipulate are negative numbers, represented in hexadecimal. So you first need to convert the number in an hex symbol. I think this could be done with sprintf but I'm too far away from Max to be able to test this (I checked your patch using http://www.ahmetkizilay.com/ptc/ :-)
You're right about atoi, of course. I just wanted to show joumik it was quite an obvious conversion to do without any specialized object.


PS:   http://www.ahmetkizilay.com/ptc/   is very cool ! 


@Patrick  Delges , i was't exactly sure what Joumik needed as i was reading through the posts in diagonals , and it was a quick response i gave with the little time i had that day + your response was far more detailed  :)

and thanks for the  http://www.ahmetkizilay.com/ptc/ link, this is just wonderful !!!

@joumik glad everything is working out for you


negative hexadecimal conversion to integer, without FFFFFF prefix .

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