Hello, I'm wondering if anyone has some pointers in changing the order of different fx processes inside one gen routine.

Optimally I would like to not duplicate any processes but rather change the order in which they are send to/received from. The only way I currently see it "might be" possible is by creating some form of function that uses multiple History Objects to function as send and receive. So for routing between four FX inside the gen routine I would need to introduce a four sample overall delay.

Any tips would be highly appreciated! Thanks

Hello, I'm wondering if anyone has some pointers in changing the order of different fx processes inside one gen routine.

Optimally I would like to not duplicate any processes but rather change the order in which they are send to/received from. The only way I currently see it "might be" possible is by creating some form of function that uses multiple History Objects to function as send and receive. So for routing between four FX inside the gen routine I would need to introduce a four sample overall delay.

Any tips would be highly appreciated! Thanks

Hello, I'm wondering if anyone has some pointers in changing the order of different fx processes inside one gen routine.

Optimally I would 

building-an-fx-routing-system-purely-in-gen

Three possible methods, with different pros and cons:

1) Use switches and insert a history one one of the routes.  Pros are that this can minimize latency (only N-1 samples of history per N fx in the worst case), cons are that this doesn't scale well for many fx.  I recommend this if you only have a small number of possible fx topologies. In particular, you can even eliminate the history if one of the fx is a [delay] operator with @feedback 1. 

If you use [mix] instead of [switch], you can crossfade between routings (though this will create audio feedback loops!)

2) Use sample frames of a [data] to read/write intermediate results between each fx.  Pros are that this scales better to more complex numbers of fx and possible routings (including self feedback etc.), and could be turned into a full matrix mixer if you wanted. Cons are that this will always have 1 sample of latency per fx on all possible routes. (Though you could reduce this somewhat by writing the equivalent in codebox, where you have more control over the order of peeks and pokes.)   I recommend this method if you have more fx or possibly complex routings and mixing.  

3) Write the whole thing in codebox. Pretty simple for the 2fx case, but will need several larger if/else statements for more fx. Pros are that latency is completely removed, as you have complete control over the order of operations. Cons are that this method is almost certainly more CPU hungry, unless the fx themselves are trivially simple as below.  (This may be counter-intuitive to folks expecting that codebox will be more efficient. The reason here is that if/else is generally expensive on modern CPUs if the body of code inside the if/else blocks is complex, due to branch prediction/cache misses etc. Also, this method may lead to code duplication in the machine code.)
I would only recommend this method if the functions are really simple, like waveshapers, and definitely definitely not for memory-intensive fx like reverbs). 

Finally, one thing you might want to consider is whether to apply any anti-clicking methods when changing the routing. A quick duck to zero and back over a millisecond or two, applying the routing change while the duck is at zero, should eliminate the worst of it; the same ducking parameter can be used as a multiplier to all the fx inputs for example. 

Graham

Crap -- I gave a pretty lengthy response, and then accidentally deleted it by hitting the wrong button! Ok, trying again, will keep this short though.  

1) Simple switches, with at minimum N-1 history objects for N fx. Latency can be kept pretty minimal on a preferred path.  Doesn't scale well if you want many possible fx topologies. E.g;

2) Store intermediate results in a [data]. Great if you want to support many possible topologies, but N fx means N samples latency. Can be scaled up to a full-on matrix mixer. Simple example:

3) Use a codebox to control order of operation via if/else statements. Advantage here is that you can ensure zero latency, but the disadvantage is that the CPU cost is likely higher, both because of the general overhead of if/else (branch prediction/cache misses on the CPU) as well as a greater likelihood of duplication in the generated machine code.  I would only recommend this option if the fx routines are very simple, and minimizing latency is the highest priority. Definitely not for memory intensive routines such as reverbs! Example code:

y = in1;
if (which) {
	y = fx1(y);
} else {
	y = fx2(y);
}
if (which) {
	y = fx2(y);
} else {
	y = fx1(y);
}
out1 = y;

Finally, I suggest some kind of anti-clicking (e.g. duck all fx inputs to zero and back over a few ms, applying the topology change when the duck is at zero). 

Additional thoughts:
- for the [history] paths, if the fx is a [delay] and you don't need sub-sample delay times, you won't need the [history] as [delay @feedback 1] can also handle feedback paths. 
- you could use some of these techniques to choose between multi-operator FM topologies. 
- in some cases, it might be useful to crossfade rather than switch between algorithms. You could use [mix] instead of [switch] for example, or add @interp linear to [peek], but watch out for feedback! 
- for some topologies you could provide additional tap outs, e.g. for fx1->fx2 you could have tap outs at both fx2 as well as fx1. Again, blending between these might be fun.  

Hey Graham, thanks for the extensive reply! 

 I have all my code running in a single Codebox instance, using require to import all relevant FX routines.  

My current solution is basically what you suggested here:

While this overall works well I have issues with some duplicated FX function instances. I noticed that some objects like history have strange behavior when used this way. For example when having an abstraction called "fx1reverb" loaded in both if statements above, there will be feedback loops happening, although the function should be only active in one of the two if statements.

The only way to fix this error for me is, to "wrap" these fx functions into another set of functions called "fx1reverb1" "fx1reverb2" at the moment and have them defined individually in each if statement.

Also in generally using the if method above, makes changing the order of modules not smooth and can cause clicks. I would definitely like to go down the route of having some form of history / mix setup that is used to drive the input/output logic of each FX, while having them only defined once and running through.

I think the example 2) you showed will be my best bet -  I will do some more digging today and try to reproduce this in a codebox setup. Thanks a lot!


Building an FX Routing System purely in Gen

zion

 to control playback time location of [groove~]. 

the range of the float should be changeable

 according to the length of a specific audio file. Max [float] object is wonderful but to use in Live I believe that I need [live.numbox] that its defaults range is 0. - 127, cant it be unlimited like [float] object? Or at least I wish 

 - according to a specific audio file's length - 

But I see no attribute for that in [live.numbox], or

a massage to change its range ! only at the inspector window.. 

Hi
I need a float number box to control playback time location of [groove~]. 
the range of the float should be changeable according to the length of a specific audio file. Max [float] object is wonderful but to use in Live I believe that I need [live.numbox] that its defaults range is 0. - 127, cant it be unlimited like  [float] object? Or at least I wish to change range dynamically - according to  a specific audio file's length - But I see no attribute for that in  [live.numbox],  or a massage to change its range ! only at the inspector window.. 
I need a real-time dynamic change.
Any ideas
Thank You!

Hi
I need a float number box to control playback time location of [groove~]. 
the range of the float should be changeable according to the l

setting-live-numbox-range-where-is-that-attribute

Waite!! I know you can use it in live but There is no automation or storing for it, and it is crucial..
So is there a way to determine a [live.number] range dynamiclly ?
Thanks

It is possible to store max float, just activate parameter mode.
It is also possible to automate it using pattr.
Read pattr help file on MaxForLive TAB
pattr needs to have parameter mode enabled, but then what about
linked float ? I guess it has to be disabled.
It would get range set anyway from buffer length, and needs not to be stored.

But as I don't use Live can't say really.

I guess there is a reason why not to allow both dynamic range
and automation of live gui objects.
Would that not cause problems ?

How do you deal with stored automation, when automated object
changes it's range ?


Ok, greare things to learn and try..
Your answer sends me to think and wonder what I realy know and nead :)


You can alter live.numbox (and most live.* things) by sending the _parameter_range message.  E.g. _parameter_range 0. 500.

However, for the reasons above about screwing with persisted data it’s really not a great idea In practice. 

(Basically the only thing that seems safe to use it for is to change the enum strings for enum data types to another set of strings of the same length).

Nice!  _parameter_range 0. 500. works and changes in real-time the live.numbox range, however, after creating automation for the old range and then re-range  live.numbox , the range for the automation screen did not change nor re-scaled.. (even if I used 'delete automation' and create a new one) - only when I re-named the long script name of  live.numbox , a new automation scaling was there.
But why is it risky thing? isn't it just like a  legitimate dynamic allocation?
Any way, for some other reasons not going to use it now, but happy to have this option - Thanks!

Setting [live.numbox] range. where is that attribute?

In what means and ways it will affect a different user if he uses it with

Hello,
I built a device using Max 8 and Live 10 Suite.
In what means and ways it will affect a different user if he uses  it with live 11? 
Thanks!!

Hello,
I built a device using Max 8 and Live 10 Suite.
In what means and ways it will affect a different user if he uses  it with live 11? 


m4l-device-made-on-live-10-will-not-work-perfect-on-live-11

Hello.
One thing I am sure is that if your device set/get/observe a Chain Selector. It will not be compatible with live 11... If it's the case you will have to add in your device a little things that checks the current live version and change the parameter number of the Chain Selector (9 in Live 10 / 17 in Live 11)..
Surely there is another changes but I dontknow them..

Ctrl+F the LOM for "deprecated", it will show the deprecated functions, properties, etc.

https://docs.cycling74.com/max8/vignettes/live_object_model 

From 10 to 11 seems mostly get_notes and related.

 Still Max 8 on Live 11, as of 11.1 version.

M4L device made on Live 10 will not work proper on Live 11?

Greg Hancock

Hi, first post. I've been using Clyphx up to Ableton 10, but its now no longer compatible with V11. Is there a max4live alternative to the retrigger function (it retriggers any clips which are recording, without effecting none recording tracks)? It seems such a simple instruction but I haven't found a way to do it without using Clyphx. Thanx!

Hi, first post.  I've been using Clyphx up to Ableton 10, but its now no longer compatible with V11.  Is there a max4live alternative to the retrigger function (it retriggers any clips which are recording, without effecting none recording tracks)?  It seems such a simple instruction but I haven't found a way to do it without using Clyphx.  Thanx!


Hi, first post.  I've been using Clyphx up to Ableton 10, but its now no longer compatible with V11.  Is there a max4live alternative to the

help-requested

Unless I'm mistaken, clicking the Session Record Button (smaller unfilled circle button, the bigger filled one is Arrangement Record) when one or more Session Clips are recording does the same thing.

Heh, can't believe I didn't think of that.  Thanx, seems to work a treat :)


Help requested

mr_johnson22

Right now I'm trying to grab data from an Excel spreadsheet and import them into a Max patcher. Basically, I want to be able to grab a number (the data will always be number values, never text) from any given cell in the spreadsheet, and put that number into Max.

After searching through the forums here, I know that I can save an Excel file as a .csv file for Max to read as text (

https://cycling74.com/forums/midi-from-excel).

 But after saving my .csv file, I don't know what to do with it! Do I write the file into a coll object or something?

Sorry if this is a basic question...I'm rather new at Max.

After searching through the forums here, I know that I can save an Excel file as a .csv file for Max to read as text (https://cycling74.com/forums/midi-from-excel). But after saving my .csv file, I don't know what to do with it! Do I write the file into a coll object or something?

Sorry if this is a basic question...I'm rather new at Max.


importing-from-excel-csv-questions

hey i'm guessing you probably want this in a [coll]? its possible to load data from a excel csv into max coll but not directly. coll wants: each line to begin with a int followed by a comma, fields seperated by a space (not comma), and  lines ending with a semicolon. [text] is pretty indifferent to the contents though so you could just load the csv into that with (read) after you add a '.txt' extensiom to the file name. but if you want it in a coll, see attached. i made this to work with text and add sequential numbers as each line enters the coll but it would be fine with numeric data. this patch doesn't verify the integrity of the csv in any way. empty fields cant be blank (just fill with a '0' or something in excel). other things would probably break it tool. this is more of a job for java. i hesitate to post this but, eh:

First off: thank you so much!!! This will DEFINITELY help, and there is no chance that I ever would have thought this up.

Secondly: this might complicate matters, but is there a way to do this without manually saving the Excel file...? The reason for this is that the Excel file will constantly be updated by means of a DDE server, so the values to be imported are always changing in real-time, and having to manually save the Excel as a .csv takes away that real-time aspect of it.

The data I'll be using is being received by one program (MT4), and from there it's sent to Excel in real-time, which is to be sent to Max also in real-time, if possible. So the next best thing I can think of off the top of my head would be to set Excel's auto-saving to the shortest time interval possible and use the patcher you just provided. But if there's a better way to preserve real-time values, that would be a big help.

PS: Does Max support DDE servers? That would be kinda nice...


see attached excel file. whatever is on sheet1 will be saved as "data4max.csv" every 13 seconds. the old data is overwritten. press ctrl+t to start the macro. to see the vba code press alt+f11 to open the editor. to change the time interval, double-click "Module1" and find the number 13. so maybe put your dde stuff on sheet2 then format for the record to go to max on sheet1.

to get [text] to read .csv without renaming the file, goto your max "init" folder, open "max-fileformats.txt" and add a line like "max fileformat .csv TEXT 0 "CSV Text file" textfile;"

add [filewatch] to the patch. it sends a bang every time the contents of the file has changed (see help). with the max example above, instead of indexing the data with that auto incrementing number (the second pair of [i] below the second uzi) maybe concatenate some things in excel to make a big timestamp int to send the coll for index. to make the index stop resetting to 1, delete the green patch cord going to the lower [i 1].


Oh wow! Thanks!! I'm going to try this out tomorrow!


I think that was the ticket!!! But I can't get too excited yet...I can't get floats inputted into [text] to not be cut off after the 3rd decimal point! And I do need to work with values with 4 decimal points...arghhh

For instance, if I have an Excel cell with a value of 0.12345, the value that will end up in the second [text] and ultimately the [coll] is 0.123. Long strings don't get cut off, though.

Is this an inherent issue with [text]? Because I tried connecting a flonum to a [text], and inputting numbers with 4 or 5 decimals, and only the first 3 are ever shown inside the [text].

If this is a limitation in [text] I won't be able to work around, I'll see what I can do to compensate. Perhaps if I multiply floating points by a large multiple of ten before putting it in the second [text], and dividing it back to normal before using the value, I can get past this.

But is there a floating point precision tricks of [text] that I'm not aware of? That's all I will ask of you now...you've done a lot already OTL


Actually, never mind! The multiplication thing worked!

Thank you SO very much. Never would I have been able to do this without your help. :)


Hi Mr Johnson - i found this thread this morning and am also having issues with the text object and decimal points. Within your experience how did you solve this? My data is coming from long lat co-oodinates which come as 51.4930794 / -0.0540378. Don't know if you solved this but I am using the same (Justin G 'hats off') example for packing coll with a converted .cvs file. I eventually want to map this data to between 0.-1. I've attached data as .cvs incase your interested. :) many thanks in advance.


Hi Sampointone, I believe mr Johnson multiplied his number in excel (in your case multiply by 10,000) then once the number arrives in Maxmsp, divide it by 10,000 to return it to normal.


Howdy Justin G,
Just made an account to thank you for this patch from 4 years ago. It really helped in a pinch!
~John


Likewise now 6 years on!! thanks :) really useful Justin G

haha, I too am sending thanks to Justin G in 2019.   Works great!

Justin G, you have yet another satisfied customer. Works like a charm!

Many thanks. I used this for my LED sousa bell.

I had a problem with the Excel sheet not saving - I am on a Mac and had to change a back slash to a forward slash on module 2 in Excel. 

In this line:
ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs FileName:=ThisWorkbook.Path & "\data4max.csv", 

Changed to:
ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs FileName:=ThisWorkbook.Path & "/data4max.csv", 

I also created a data4max.cvs file in the same folder that was then successfully being overwritten :)

Other than that so so helpful! :) Big thanks!

Importing from Excel; .csv questions

Graham Wakefield

Been mucking around with these patchers for a little while, and wondered what the gen community might make of them. It has bugged me for a while that the gen~ pulsar example doesn't allow pulses to overlap, and I figured that would be a good opportunity to do a little for loop: copying in grain waveforms to an output buffer when triggered by a simple train. The same overlap-add method can also work great for buffer granulation. Both examples below:

sharing-is-granular-gen-overlap-add-fun

Oooooh! I can't wait to dig in to this. I am just getting started on some granular stuff for a gen~ based performance tool. Thanks for these Graham, I'm sure I'll have questions shortly.


[sharing is granular] gen~ overlap-add fun

Iain Duncan

Hi external authors, has anyone here tried cross-compiling for M1 from an intel mac? And if so, how did it go? I realize I will need to test the binary on another machine, but right now that is somewhat doable for me while developing on M1 is not. thanks!

Hi  external authors, has anyone here tried cross-compiling for M1 from an  intel mac? And if so, how did it go? I realize I will need to test the  binary on another machine, but right now that is somewhat doable for me  while developing on M1 is not. thanks!

Hi  external authors, has anyone here tried cross-compiling for M1 from an  intel mac? And if so, how did it go? I realize I will need to te

cross-compiling-for-m1

you can cross compile for arm64, or make Fat binaries, from an Intel Mac with Xcode 12 and up (not sure what minor version needed, maybe .3 or .4).

if you run into any issues give a shout. and make sure you check out the info presented here on generating project files with the Max 8.2 SDK - https://github.com/Cycling74/max-sdk/blob/main/README-8.2-update.md 

Thanks Rob, I shall try this after end of semester. Can I ask, while I have you in a thread, is the expectation that things in the package manager should now have M1 builds? I feel Scheme for Max is now ready for the package manager (as of 0.3), but haven't tackled M1 builds yet, so if that needs to come first, that's cool.

Yes, in general new package submissions should be Fat (Intel + M1) builds for Mac. 

Thanks Isabel, that makes sense.  l'll hold off on submitting for a package until we've got M1 builds sorted.

Hi, I have a strange problem with Xcode. Yesterday I succeded generating the project files with cmake. I opened one of the projects in Xcode and was happy that I saw "Any Mac (Intel, Arm64)" as a target in the sheme selection dropdown. 
Today I was about to actually start some work but after opening any of the projects I noticed that the Arm64 disappeared in the sheme selection. 

I haven't changed anything. Even repeating the whole process of cloning sdk and building the projects with cmake does not bring the Arm64 option back to the sheme menu. The build settings are correct 

but it's not reflected in the sheme selection. Any idea?
It's Xcode 12.1 on OSX 10.15.7


I think this is a problem with the macosx sdk. I'm going to download xcode 12.4 and see if that helps

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/apple-silicon/building-a-universal-macos-binary

 Xcode 12.2 and later is a requirement for building universal binaries.  Earlier versions of Xcode don’t contain the support needed to build and  test universal versions of your macOS code. 

Cross compiling for M1?

benjamin vyger

Hi,
I made a patch receiving three datas "labeled" with K, L, M.
I would like to rout them correctly.


Here I tried to send string from Processing, but I have this in the monitor

I tried to send int or string like that in Processing

/**
 * oscP5sendreceive by andreas schlegel
 * example shows how to send and receive osc messages.
 * oscP5 website at http://www.sojamo.de/oscP5
 */
 
import oscP5.*;
import netP5.*;
  
OscP5 oscP5;
NetAddress myRemoteLocation;
int i;
void setup() {
  size(400,400);
  frameRate(25);
  /* start oscP5, listening for incoming messages at port 12000 */
  oscP5 = new OscP5(this,8001);
  
  /* myRemoteLocation is a NetAddress. a NetAddress takes 2 parameters,
   * an ip address and a port number. myRemoteLocation is used as parameter in
   * oscP5.send() when sending osc packets to another computer, device, 
   * application. usage see below. for testing purposes the listening port
   * and the port of the remote location address are the same, hence you will
   * send messages back to this sketch.
   */
  myRemoteLocation = new NetAddress("127.0.0.1",8000);
}


void draw() {
  background(0);  
}

void mousePressed() {
  i++;
  /* in the following different ways of creating osc messages are shown by example */
// OscMessage myMessage = new OscMessage("/test");
 OscMessage myMessage1 = new OscMessage("/K");
  OscMessage myMessage2 = new OscMessage("/L");
   OscMessage myMessage3 = new OscMessage("/M");
   OscMessage myMessage4 = new OscMessage("/string");
  // int j= i;
   
    myMessage1.add((abs(i)));
    myMessage2.add((abs(-i-2)));
    myMessage3.add((abs(-i*2)));
   
   String dataMarkedTo3data  ="<" // BPM9

   //   +"K" + myMessage1 +"," 
   //   +"L" + myMessage2 +","
   //   +"M" + myMessage3 +","
      
      + myMessage1 
      + myMessage2 
      + myMessage3 
      
       + ">";

    myMessage4.add(dataMarkedTo3data);

  oscP5.send(myMessage1, myRemoteLocation); 
  oscP5.send(myMessage2, myRemoteLocation); 
  oscP5.send(myMessage3, myRemoteLocation); 
 
  oscP5.send(myMessage4, myRemoteLocation); 
// oscP5.send(myMessage1, myRemoteLocation); 
}



OSC TEST from Processing port 8000.maxpat

Hi,
I made a patch receiving three datas "labeled" with K, L, M.
I would like to rout them correctly.

 
Here I tried to send string from Pr

receive-int-from-osc-and-route-them-correctly-in-maxmsp

 can't trust my eyes looking at that patch.
you insert that sel 10 13 ..... itoa stuff as if you were listening to serial port ???

Then, at least remove all that comment lines when posting processing code
as well as code not in use.  (commented out because it does not work ?)
If one understands the processing syntax, there is no need for long comment stories,
and one can easier look at the code.
---
Next - it makes no sense to send 3 values as separated messages and again as a list.
Once unpacked in Max, one can group received items as any combination in the list.
Or send only a list and unpack in Max
----------------------
Then , you need to understand that adding 3  OSCmessages into string means adding complete messages, including headers etc 
this is what your processing code sends as Message4 :



/string "<OscMessage{hostAddress=null, port=0, address=/K, typetag=i, data-size=1, data=[2]}OscMessage{hostAddress=null, port=0, address=/L, typetag=i, data-size=1, data=[4]}OscMessage{hostAddress=null, port=0, address=/M, typetag=i, data-size=1, data=[4]}>"

I you really need to send that list, you have to form it in a different way.

Surely you can simplify this a lot more? If you just have one route object to detect the address header and letter code combinations it will do the same thing. You could get rid of the top row of route commands and the prepend objects and simply put an address slash in front of all the letter codes in the bottom route object:

If you need to, you can resize the remaining route object to make it narrower and taller with multiple lines but bear in mind that it will alter the spacing of the output nodes and that it will revert to a single line object every time you edit it..

Ok, I'll see what you say later, because I have an other problem.
I don't understand why I receive only the first and the last data in MAX for LIVE
If I comment last data in Processing, I receive the new last data.
If I uncomment the last, I don't receive the former last data.
As you can see here, in the OSC monitor of the MAX for LIVE in Ableton Live.


But I receive good values, in the monitor of MAXmsp

that touchosc device is not capable of learning anything else than
maximum 2 osc addresses, which then can be selected, in case ther is more than one.
But you send 5 of them

As you can see here all my parameter are mapped


Then when, I send 5 datas at the same time, only the first and the last are mapped on OSC monitor and OSC TouchOSC.

So? It's bug and I can't make anything to find an issue (expect to create a M4L by myself?)
 

can you upload that device zipped ?
I can take a look inside.


short look in osc monitor.
You have to remove speedlim.
It blocks all between first and last message.


can you tell me how did you get 
/K
/L
/M
etc assigned into touchOSC address slots ?
sending :
oscP5.send(myMessage1, myRemoteLocation); 
oscP5.send(myMessage2, myRemoteLocation); 
oscP5.send(myMessage3, myRemoteLocation); 
oscP5.send(myMessage4, myRemoteLocation); 
oscP5.send(myMessage5, myRemoteLocation);
in one go  will allways set same OSC string to all
learn activated slots.


Even if one fixes that, (because there is such option hidden inside), 
you will face more problems because this device expects received data to
be similar to what  touchosc is sending.


I send the two  first messages, then 3-4, and the message 5 at the end.
In that way you can learn two different OSC address at once.

I don't have the good version of max to change their M4L device.

You want me to edit that for you ?
It is a lot of work for such stupid device, and I don't use live at all.
I think you don't understand at all what is behind.
And you can't simply cheat, sending single messages to learn them,
and then again all 5 to use - no way that can work.
Also why don't you make max4live device and click in it instead of using processing at all?
At least I can send you oscmonitor with speedlim removed


when I click on your link there is this
AccessDeniedAccess DeniedVPP7ZK2KVC9T4AD8p2ElseRcx9F3oAxANh1T0KJQa2sNYkVYPlmdrBbTszjppAObg/jpzZ3E4t/SEvyh34fHfvKrSdc=

And you can't simply cheat, sending single messages to learn them,
and then again all 5 to use - no way that can work.

This exactly my problem, we can't use them again 5 all.

I can make a M4L, but I like this OSC touch device because it's tiny with tuning parameters (min, max, exp, log)

I think I will send two Osc data, in different OSC touch device. It will be simpler to me. Thanks


I think it was + in the name, i changed it, please try it again.
maybe you should look here 

https://cowww.maxforlive.com/library/device/7752/osc-receiver-osc-in

Very dear Andy. Thanks to your work I will save a lot of time to perfect my project. Hope to show you something very soon. A big thank scaled on all my gratitude.

Hi Benjamin! Sharing and helping is what this is all about. Attached is the current state of my major project to link multiple X-Touch control surfaces to CuBase and an X-Air XR-18 mixer "simultaneously", storing all the data for instant recall during switches between the two. It's very big, very complicated but the bit that will interest you the most is the box about 3/4 of the way down marked "X-Mix OSC Interface". It's not a solution for you but it might spawn some ideas in your project. Feel free to copy and paste at will!

Receive datas from OSC and route them correctly in MaxMSP and M4Live SOLVED

Roman Thilenius

penmode 32 with color arguments of 125 125 125 gives a nice transparent element in max 4 but in max 8 the transparency is gone. 

is it not supported or is that yet another change in lcd?


[lcd]

penmode 32 with color arguments of 125 125 125 gives a nice transparent element in max 4 but in max 8 the transparency is gone. 

is it not supported or is that yet another change in lcd?



[lcd]

penmode 32 with color arguments of 125 125 125 gives a nice transparent element in max 4 but in max 8 the transparency is gone. 

is

penmode-in-lcd

Maybe a combination of pensize 32 and oprgb:


let me see if i can isolate what i am actually doing.


okay, none of the copy modes does anything for me.


it´s been completely changed. only useless transfer modes are left, useful ones have been removed.  also, it takes 1-7 now instead of flags.




jit.lcd might be my solution, but somehow i question if that change to lcd was really necessary.


There is transparency in this pink (not always visible when using the pen, because of writing the same color over and over at the same place). Here a better example:


that´s weird. but then why my patch does not work? and why is it no longer documented in the ref?

penmode in lcd

Joe Kaplan

Hi! I'm looking for ways to read a file with a specific name, or write that file if it is missing.

If I send a "read myfile.txt" message to [text], I get a red error in the Max window that the file was not found. Helpful, but not useful for my purpose. If I could somehow get a bang when the file is not found, I could use that to kick off another part of the patch that might create the file or do something else.

Hi!  I'm looking for ways to read a file with a specific name, or write that file if it is missing.

If I send a "read myfile.txt" message to [text], I get a red error in the Max window that the file was not found.  Helpful, but not useful for my purpose.  If I could somehow get a bang when the file is not found, I could use that to kick off another part of the patch that might create the file or do something else.

Hi!  I'm looking for ways to read a file with a specific name, or write that file if it is missing.
If I send a "read myfile.txt" message to

get-a-bang-from-text-when-file-not-found

Here are a couple of solutions. Using the "error" object seems to be the best, but a bit fussy. This seems like a reasonable feature request.

but prefer to use absolute paths, instead of just read and write

absolutepath is a clean solution (unless we need the same outside the search path)

absolute path to absolutepath object does not care about max search paths


well, you usually have your max patch in the search path, but then maybe you might want to have samples or preferences files somewhere in the system.

then, like shown in your screenshot, you need to provide the full path. a standalone made by somebody else might not find such a path.

Source Audio, I tried implementing the solution in your screenshot, but when I try send "write test.txt" to [text], i get "error -1 creating file"   

This post  suggests the error means "directory does not exist." Where would [text] try to write the file by default?  Do I need to do something to allow permissions?  I would like this to be able to work in a standalone on any random system.

My advice is to allways provide full path.
And yes - it is complicated because of permissions.
If you create new patch without saving it to disk, insert text
object and send it write message, then file could be saved anywhere,
depending on last opened file location,
or even path to Max.app which in applications folder might not allow you
to write anything there, again depending on security settings of the system.
When max patch is saved to disk and restarted, write message
should try to write file next to the patcher.
But I don't use this simple write messages since quite a while, and have no interest
in finding out in each new Max and OS version what should be if,
in first place when it comes to standalones
--------
This kind of stuff has been discussed so many times on the forum,
including auto path creation using thispatcher, maxsendapppath and so on.
No need to repeat this over and over.

There are safe places suggested to create folders and write files,
like in Documents and similar.




Thanks!  Yeah, this thread has gone a bit offtopic from the original question, which is resolved.

I think in my case it's trying to write in the windows Program Files folder which does have some permissions restrictions.  I will do some forum searching to see about various options, especially things that will work safely in standalones.  The things you mention above are definitely solutions to consider.

Get a bang from [text] when file not found?

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that´s weird. but then why my patch does not work? and why is it no longer documented in the ref?

Thanks! Yeah, this thread has gone a bit offtopic from the original question, which is resolved. I think in my case it's trying to write...