Jan Vancik

I've been building a poly synth that supposed to incorprate both substractive synthesis and granular synthesis. Essentialy the idea is to have two synths running in parallel and then add them together to get a combination of both. The granular "voice" is based on Oliver Thurleys granular tutorial, but I've really been struggling to make it truly polyphonic, as the poly object he uses generates the actual cloud of the grains, rather than doing what it's "supposed to" by allowing the playing of chords. If anyone has any ideas on how to solve this please let me know!

grainGenPitchctrl.maxpat

granular combo poly at.2..maxpat

Hi everyone, 
I've been building a poly synth that supposed to incorprate both substractive synthesis and granular synthesis. Essentialy the idea is to have two synths running in parallel and then add them together to get a combination of both.  The granular "voice" is based on Oliver Thurleys granular tutorial, but I've really been struggling to make it truly polyphonic, as the poly object he uses generates the actual cloud of the grains, rather than doing what it's "supposed to" by allowing the playing of chords. If anyone has any ideas on how to solve this please let me know!

Hi everyone, 
I've been building a poly synth that supposed to incorprate both substractive synthesis and granular synthesis. Essentialy the

granular-polyphony-in-max-8

Granular polyphony in Max 8

Jess Mardon

I wonder if anyone has a suggestion for a data-routing question I've run into. I am receiving strings of data over serial, which in turn are received from 2 sensors, called LH and RH. The data streams one complete line for whichever it has received from LH or RH and then returns a new line. In each line the structure of the data is "LH 0 0 0 0 0 0" where each 0 is an int from 0-255.

I have got the incoming data streaming in Max and spitting out the line of messages it receives from each sensor. However, where I'm stuck is how to parse that data out into two separate data sets for each sensor. I've attached my code with notes. In my old code I just had one sensor attached, so I had no need to separate the two data streams.

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acceldata2.maxpat

I wonder if anyone has a suggestion for a data-routing question I've run into. I am receiving strings of data over serial, which in turn are received from 2 sensors, called LH and RH. The data streams one complete line for whichever it has received from LH or RH and then returns a new line. In each line the structure of the data is "LH 0 0 0 0 0 0" where each 0 is an int from 0-255. 

Hey, Merry Christmas everyone
I wonder if anyone has a suggestion for a data-routing question I've run into. I am receiving strings of data 

routing-datastreams

Routing Datastreams

chapelier fou

I encounter a problem in a patch and it's caused by the fact that introducing a delay filters consecutive bangs. ANy explanation ? 

I encounter a problem in a patch and it's caused by the fact that introducing a delay filters consecutive bangs.  ANy explanation ? 
Simple illustration : 


I encounter a problem in a patch and it's caused by the fact that introducing a delay filters consecutive bangs.  ANy explanation ? 
Simple 

why-is-del-filtering-multiple-bangs

 see [del] reference. You can use [pipe].

bang received in the left inlet is delayed by the number of milliseconds specified by the right inlet, then is sent out the outlet. Only one bang at a time can be delayed by delay. If a bang is already in delay when a new bang is received in the left inlet, the first bang is forgotten."

Thanks. In my case, this won't solve the issue I'm afraid. 
See the [del 0] in this device. It's just aimed to allow to draw the automation more intuitively (otherwise I should draw it slightly early). The device doesn't not work properly when several notes are played at the same time : it only takes to account the highest one. Bypassing the [del] make it work with multiple notes.
Replacing it with pipe doesn't work.

using 'pipe' like this(with 'sel 0' at its outlet) seems to work exactly as 'del' might 
with consecutive bangs for me:

^does that work differently when placed within m4l/.amxd for some reason?

also, using 'del' or 'pipe' with a constant time of '0'...
 just a feeling i have but... seems like one of those max-urban-legends :D... 
doesn't actually perform reliably as a 'tiny' defer/delay(in that case, just use 't b b l' and skip using the middle 'b'(haha, i've done this, too)... but these are all hacks... i don't think they're as effective as we think...)
would a simple 'defer' or 'deferlow' work instead(somewhere along the data-flow)?

anyways, if none of this works in the exact context, 
hope it at least helps get you further in the right direction :)


this (your second patch) is a completely different scenario as we thought. :)

what should this [del 0] do if i may ask? make two successively incoming note events remain together in high priority? where they have never been?...




Thank you both. 
This [del 0] is the best way I found to ensure that clip automation is sent before the midi notes. So I can draw probability per note more intuitively. Without this, I have to set up the probability just before the note. 

erratum, it works with [pipe]. 
Any idea how this probability concept could effectively work on each note triggered simultaneously ? Currently, simultaneous notes are all either blocked or passed thru. I'd love that the probability would be applied to all individual notes. 
EDIT : nevermind, in practice, I like it like that. 


Why is [del] filtering multiple bangs ?

Roman Thilenius

i use “window notitle“ in max4 in order to make patches fullscreen.

this does not work in max5, the windows still have sidebars.

window-notitle-in-max5

what do you mean by sidebars? scrollbars? you can either use the fullscreen message or use now flag nogrow.



i use "window notitle" to have a fullscreenmode for my patcher across 2 or 3 monitors.

yes the scrollbars. they werent there in max4 - and i dont see the sense of
scrollbars in a window where no content is outside the range anyway.

will try nogrow, sounds like it will work. :)


10 years later still no real solution in max 8.

you can now close them, but they reopen when you hit the border.


Hi Roman. I don't seem to have a problem with that. (or I didn't fully understand your problem...)

Additionally, you can turn off the vertical and horizontal scrollbars in the "patcher inspector", and also turn off the toolbars and sidebar on the View menu.


1. unpin all toolbars

2. move the window to 0 0 of your monitor

2. try to click the little button in the top left corner

:)



i mean under mac i would understand, there is a prefs you can set for macos fullscreen support or not. but right now i checked it in win and it is the same.


ah… i get it, you want them to stay ‘unpinned’ no matter what(they should add an option somewhere to make them stay hidden… i’m preparing something for a streaming show where i improvise a patch, 
and ran into a need for this myself->while improvising/live-patching in an empty/open patch, i don’t want the sidebars to creep up on me as it slows me down unnecessarily…)… it would be very helpful.


this may sound conservative but that is what i would expect from a palette style window anyway: that it is empty.

it is not like the last 1-2 pixels at the window border would be rightfully owned by some toolbar elf. the canvas is all mine, and i can prove that.

in max 5 you could not hide the toolbars, in max 6 you could hide them but not save that, in max 7 fullscreen experiments usually just chrash max, and in max 8 you can hide the toolbars but they come back without invitation.

it would be so great (and so logical) if you could at least control all of this using messages to thispatcher and not have to search in 5+ different places to set up a damned window.

ignore, me, i am just talking to myself.



btw. what is the use of the top toolbar in locked mode anyway? beside that important feature called "calendar" i mean. :D

not to speak of the drawing bugs. (vertical line? demo badge now in firefox?)



If you go to the View menu and uncheck "Toolbar", it does not happen. However, when you reopen the file the toolbars are visible again. If you want to get rid of the toolbars indefinitely for a specific patch, do the following:

ah, unchecking ‘show toolbar on open’ is what i needed(when opening it to start practicing fresh, kept appearing, so i thought it just didn’t have an option…), this helps me so much, thank you, Pedro 🍻

 
and when you want to show them again the content of the window gets moved around^^


Hi again Roman. Reading your posts, I'm starting to suspect that you're in "rant mode" and don't really like the toolbars... ;-)

I agree with you to some degree, I think they're excessive, on all 4 sides of the window, making the interface cluttered. For instance, why have the toolbars visible on every Help File? They take space and distract you from the patcher's content. Also, there are many unnecessary icons/features present that should reside only on the menu bar, or be implemented in other ways, I could go on and on...


Where we may differ is that I think Cycling made it possible for us to get rid of the toolbars if we want to, independently by patcher. Just go to the patcher's inspector, and turn off "Show Toolbar on Open". You can even save the patch as the default new template for future patchers and don't ever turn them on again... It's feasible.


With that being said, assuming for a moment that the toolbars are needed, I don't know of a better solution in this case. Since "the canvas is all yours" (and I agree!), the toolbars usually open outside the window borders, hence expanding the window. The only exception to this behaviour would be when the window is already in fullscreen or completely maximized, because it cannot expand anymore. In this case, the toolbars have to be opened inside the window, effectively reducing the available canvas space.


"In this case, the toolbars have to be opened inside the window"

toolbars overlapping the patcher canvas would be acceptable (and still better than having them outside the screen area of course) but afaik they dont do that.

instead they move the whole window off its original location.

of course one could bind command-8 to reposition the window every time command-8 is pressed, but that will only cause new problems.


window notitle in max5

I want to make a device that will search if a track called "KUE" exists, and then will allow to route the incoming audio of the device to the "KUE" track. 

I'm aware of the "BrowseRouting" abstraction, but I'd rather not using it for several reasons. Any help ? 

CF_Kue_Router.amxd

I want to make a device that will search if a track called "KUE" exists, and then will allow to route the incoming audio of the device to the "KUE" track. 
I'm aware of the "BrowseRouting" abstraction, but I'd rather not using it for several reasons. Any help ? 
Here's where I'm at (attached file). 

Hi, 
I want to make a device that will search if a track called "KUE" exists, and then will allow to route the incoming audio of the device 

how-to-route-a-device-output-to-some-track-in

Here is a patch/abstraction that may be helpful.
It allows to set the input type of a track, using track ID and type name,
and can easily be adapted for setting the output type.

Thanks broc. 
I'm still struggling to get this working, unfortunately. I'm making a lot of trial and error, this whole system looks so convoluted to me.
The main difference here is I don't want to set the output of a track, but one of the output of the device.

How to route a device output to some track IN ?

opacties

Hello all.. I'm having a really strange problem with the metro object in max for live... simply put, it has stopped working. I've made numerous patches before that utilize the metro object in m4l, but ever since working on a new patch, it all of the sudden decided to stop working. Oddly enough, previous patches that have the metro object seem to still work.... For this latest patch, I initially developed it in MAX/MSP, and everything works just fine...

Has anyone else experienced this problem?!? It is beyond frustrating... I would be greatly appreciative if someone could help..

Here is the patch I've made for m4l if anyone is interested in taking a look

Hello all.. I'm having a really strange problem with the metro object in max for live... simply put, it has stopped working. I've made numerous patches before that utilize the metro object in m4l, but ever since working on a new patch, it all of the sudden decided to stop working. Oddly enough, previous patches that have the metro object seem to still work.... For this latest patch, I initially developed it in MAX/MSP, and everything works just fine...
Has anyone else experienced this problem?!? It is beyond frustrating... I would be greatly appreciative if someone could help..

Here is the patch I've made for m4l if anyone is interested in taking a look


metro-not-working-in-m4l

Hi - Try substituting loadbang with live.thisdevice.


Hey thanks for responding... I'll give it a shot!!


hi, I'm having exactly the same problem.. any answer?

Hi, a few times I've had devices appear "dead" in Live is if I've caused a stack overflow within the device accidentally during initialization.

I would always be worried about any point you could set a [metro] with a duration == 0, so I'd recommend defending against that and seeing if that helps.

This helped me! All msp object stopped working all of a sudden, because a metro object had received a 0 as an argument.
Hard to notice, no error message appeared or anything. 
Restarting Live+Max fixed it.


In my situation, I hadn't noticed the audio engine shutting down after my computer woke up from sleep mode. So starting the audio engine made the metro work again.

If you also have a non-working metro, turning the audio engine off and on again may also help. Worth a try before restarting Live and Max.

This bit me before too - it's not super obvious. If the audio engine is off in Live, the high priority thread in Max does not run at all.  So that includes any metro, delay, or pipe objects.  This can be confusing, because the low priority (gui thread) does run, so it's not clear that you've just disable a huge swath of Max and it seems like parts of your patch just died. 


Metro not working in M4l?

Jazer Giles

Uses accumulation to integrate the differential equations found here: 

http://www.cfm.brown.edu/people/dobrush/am34/Mathematica/ch3/duffing.html

Duffing_Audio_Example.maxpat

Uses accumulation to integrate the differential equations found here:  http://www.cfm.brown.edu/people/dobrush/am34/Mathematica/ch3/duffing.html 

Uses accumulation to integrate the differential equations found here:  http://www.cfm.brown.edu/people/dobrush/am34/Mathematica/ch3/duffing.

-patchshare-duffing-oscillator-in-gen~

Nice! This is a really responsive system, has some lovely stable & unstable points, and nice transitions, thanks for sharing! 

I took the liberty of hacking on it a bit:

I de-codeboxified it, since it doesn't really use any features that require codebox, and I wanted to see what would happen by inserting things here & there.  

Found that toning down the amp before waveshaping helped retain a bit more of the curvature. 

Added a 2nd output for the velocity, which has a rawer/brighter waveform but still useful. 

Also I pulled out the cosine driver itself -- mainly because I wanted to see how it behaves when driven by non-cosine functions.  (Kind of interesting, almost turns into a kind of env-following filter; esp. when friction is low).

Also turned the simulation rate (=> step size) into a signal input, to see what modulation would do. It's good :-)

And added a 2D scope~ to view the actual flows, which are pretty fascinating.

I think this might be a nice one to add to the chaotic oscillators in the gen~ examples.

This is astounding work. Thank you, Both! 🙏

Another good source for adaption of Chaotic Systems in gen~ is from one of Hans Mikelson's article in the Csound Book :

http://www.csounds.com/mikelson/fractals.orc
http://www.csounds.com/mikelson/fractals.sco 



Hi everyone, thank you Jazer and Graham for this amazing object. We're having a lot of fun exploring it this week. Just one question though. It really crashes a lot. We've been exploring all the parameters to try to avoid it. What are you best pieces of advise to avoid such crashes? Best!

My first guess with these kinds of simulation is positive feedback; the Duffing is a 2nd order integrator (integration of integration) so that positive feedback can be extremely rapid. 

The absolute simplest way to prevent this would be to insert some kind of limiting in the feedback loop. 

Unfortunately, from what I can see, the cases where blow ups happen are not necessarily the largest ranges of x and v, so, applying limiting would break "normal behaviour". I also looked at maybe limiting at dx/dt and dv/dt, but the same thing holds: the ranges at "blowup" are not necessarily higher than the ranges of "normal behaviour". 

But, after playing around with a few things, I found that simply sticking a [clip -200 200] in the feedback path for "x" seems to stop the blow ups.  That's a pretty minimal change -- at that scale, the tanh shaping downstream will be already pretty much flat, so I think you won't really hear any difference. 

Also maybe add a [clip -20000 20000] in the dv/dt loop, which should also be "mostly harmless".

Thank you so much Graham, and thank you for replying so quickly! Since we are in a bit of an extreme situation (we use audiodescriptors that send very hectic numbers), we had to push you tricks a bit further: [clip -100 100] in the feedback path for "x"; a [clip -100 100] in the dv/dt loop; a [clip -100 100] after the drive. Now we're crash free even when the index, depth and intrinsic frequency are at the max followed by brutal changes.

Hej everybody.
I found this thread while searching for implementations of oscillators like this or others like van der pool etc. in gen. 
I am currently trying to understand how you you implemented the formula in gen. Could somebody explain me how to approach this? 
I know that the first derivative means velocity, the second acceleration. I know we working in a discrete system and therefore need to integrate that way.
But I don't understand the technique of named History Loops and couldn't find any information on it. (what does + x mean in a History X loop?)

I also don't fully understand how we approach the dv/dt with the "simulation rate" (why isn't that just 1 sample?)

Quite messy - but thats how it is in my head atm. Thanks for your help!
Martin

//ah ok. + "X" in a History X Loop is the same as += (is there a reason to name the History Loops?)

sounds like you already understand it more on your own… but to add, i found some info on how to implement equations from Isabel’s tutorials:
https://cycling74.com/tutorials/demystifying-digital-filters-part-4 
and some specific answers i can help with:

is there a reason to name the History Loops?

^other than keeping things clear,  having separate names also allows for certain paths of signal flow to remain separate in their calculation(otherwise, they can mistakenly all add together at the wrong point), and most of all, under-the-hood, the names of history objects are how gen~ allocates separates spaces in hardware memory for them(this is how it refers to a specific area of memory, and for the calculation how you keep ‘velocity’ separate from ‘acceleration’).
(i might’ve misunderstood you(?), hope it helps, tho)

^ dv/dt is the change in velocity over the change in time. the change in time is based around samplerate so if your ‘simulation rate’ was 1Hz, it matches to samplerate making ‘dt’ exactly the duration of 1 sample(otherwise, if you input anything other than 1Hz there, the gen~ patch is setup to allow for a ‘variable’ simulation rate).

that’s as much as i understood it anyways(i’ve been looking at this patch for awhile, too…), hope it helps until someone more expert(yourself included) comes along

and to any experts who come along… can i also ask?
what the hell is this symbol? -> ß
and the curvy shaped ‘w’ that appears in the same equation at https://www.cfm.brown.edu/people/dobrush/am34/Mathematica/ch3/duffing.html

(^they bother to explain ‘theta’, the mass ‘m’, torsional spring constant ‘k’, damping coefficient ‘y’, and even the ‘dot’ (which i thought would be called umlaut until i saw the single one but i digress…)… and then when they get to the ‘Nowadays…’ part, all manner of specificity goes out the window(hahahaha… drives me mad sometimes)… ok, end of rant… 
sorry, i am bored… Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays, @Everyone :)

[patchShare] Duffing oscillator in gen~

Mark Durham

Often the most useful things are the simplest building blocks. One of the most fundamental must be ways of converting a range of numbers to create more interesting and useful curves etc. I thought a nice post would be to collect everyone's thoughts and tricks on this idea. See the included patch and all will become clear. Please add anything you find useful and re-post. 

re-mapping-a-range-of-numbers-add-your-tricks-here

Excellent idea Mark; pre-empting many future posts too. I'll have a HD clear out and see what I can find.


nice. never occurred to me to use function in this way! new trick learned, thanks!!


i have a bigger set of abstractions which can distort a range of numbers,
as i found that you simply need that to build GUI stuff.

the most basic version uses different functions such as pow, exp, log,
tanh and so on, and the input and output ranges are always 0. - 1.

then there are abstractions which work with a user-given range. they
accept arguments like "107 250" and perform the above functions on the
chosen input range - as well as output a curve of that range.

further abstractions work bipolar - the input range is split in the middle,
and calculations like exp or log are done to both halves individually, in opposite
direction.

last but not least you could take a range of 0-20 and perform such a distortion
only to 0-12 and leave the rest of the range as it is: linear.

and where mathematical stuff wont work anymore, there is always table or coll
to translate n to m.

Roman, are your abstractions available online? or can you add some here? I really like the idea of splitting the range across different equations, will give this a try when I've got time.


another solution for splitted-range mapping: a combo with [sadam.split] and cascaded [zmap] objects:

(You need The sadam Library for this, available at http://www.sadam.hu/en/software ).

Here's a way to get a circular mapping, though I still don't really understand polar and cartesian co-ordinates!


Have added the new additions to the main collection:

Next thing is to do an MSP version.... any takers?


for clotilda's non sequitur excellentia (what's Latin for "spam"?) .

Like digital monkeys hacking away in cyber-space, they throw up a rare gem of unadulterated beauty

so, i have modularized my mapping abstractions now.

some of them do now need 3 times more CPU than before, but this way the stuff is easier to
extend or change.

the MAP objects distort a range of n-m and map it to another range, the MAKE objects
take a range of n-m and created distorted output of the same range, the DO objects
work on a range of 0. - 1.

110.map just maps linear, 110.map-down maps from n-m to 0.-1. and 110.map-up the
other way round.

the log, exp, pow, and trunc distortions require an argument, the other functions dont.
this argument always has to follow the range arguments.
example: in [110.map-log 0 127 1 50 90] the 90 belongs to the "log".

look into [110-map-overview] and [110-map build yourself].

I just finished an external that re-maps numbers (or lists) using several different interpolation methods. Currently Bézier, piecewise linear, polinomial and spline interpolations are supported, and I plan to extend it with more complex things as well, like Hermite-interpolation or exponential fit.

The object is called [sadam.interpol] and is part of The sadam Library: https://cycling74.com/forums/announce-the-sadam-library-version-2012-10-08 .

This thread is full of awesome.  Thank you everyone for the input!

Roman, there appears to be a missing external in your bundled goodies.  Something called 110.isolate...  the absence of which is causing many of the other externals and many of your examples to brick.  You don't by any chance have that handy do you?  Can you post it?

troll abstraction 110.isolate: Isolates the rest of your patch. Classic Roman.


oh my goodness. yes, that is because "isolate" is a new abstraction from 2011, i was using something else before.

[110.isolate] is a bit like [split] but has three outputs: the center value of the range, greater than that, and smaller like that. this is required for _some of the possible operations you can do when distorting a range of numbers bipolar. the idea is to leave the center value untouched while distorting the rest.

the reason why it is required is, last but not least, the fact that [expr] has that fascistic size limit for the input string, so somewhere there has to be an interface between parts of the code.


Hey that did the trick.  Everything is working now.  Very cool.  Thank you!


What I would love to see is an upgrade of [line] that incorporates all of Robert Penner's easing algorithm. I think I've seen javascript or expr-based abstractions based on them but a fast, native object would be awesome. Every animation package I know, from ActionScript to hundreds of javascript frameworks, use this same set. http://www.robertpenner.com/easing/


I'd love that, too. It's one of the few remaining bits I miss from vvvv. jit.anim.drive does good easing, but sometimes you just want a single number being all rubbery and nice. 

I've been messing about with [expr sin($f1*6.28318531*[number of oscillations]] for a couple of weeks now, really loving it.
We have a player in our group, who plays the wacom tablet for some granular stuff, and we're doing some data visualisation. Well, turns out his single XYZ point wasn't too jazzy, so we spruced it up with some sin(x) there, and it really helped.


Oh man.. I am absolutely reeling over Penner's easing equations...  

http://jesusgollonet.com/processing/pennerEasing/

And how can something like this be implemented in Max?:

most of them are simple, for the bounce and bend stuff i´d use the pmpd 2d external.

for GUI stuff and other small ranges of low resolution one should precalculate complex curves and then use translations tables IMHO.


What a wonderful find (probably been around for ages though!!); my love affair with the interwebs is re-ignited:

just catching up this interested topic. i already posted something in an another topic, and Brendan kindly answer it... but i don't get it work

I am willing to re mapped incoming data let say from a range of - 50 to 50, to an output with a 'curve' that gives more importance to data as it gets closer to 0 (from both sides). I tried to adapt the sadam.split, but i don't get 0 for 0. I am missing something

I think it's more helpful if we keep the discussion in one thread instead.


define "importance", and explain why exponential or log won´t do.

(and someone tell me if the comma is right between the imperatives)


So this is admittedly above my head at the moment, but I'm looking to convert a bipolar signal starting at 64 and maxing out at 0 and 127 to a unipolar signal starting at 0 and maxing at 127. Apologies for reviving. 

So this is admittedly a bit above my head, but I'm looking to convert a bipolar signal starting at 64 and maxing at 0 and 127 to a unipolar signal starting at 0 and maxing at 127. Apologies for reviving.

So  this is admittedly a bit above my head, but I'm looking to convert a bipolar signal starting at 64 and maxing out at 0 and 127 to a unipolar signal starting at 0 and maxing out at 127.

I'm currently using the table object, but I'm not sure how to be as precise as I'd like.

[!- 127] should do the trick?
edit: I'm not sure what you mean by bipolar/unipolar here, perhaps I did not understand what you're trying to achieve

I just meant it starts at the mean and goes equal parts above and below that value as you increase the depth — whereas, it would be more useful to have it start at 0 and only go above that value as you increase that depth. 

Gonna give your suggestion a whirl here in a bit tho. I appreciate the response.

in case it still doesnt work with the  latest [scale] or [zmap] - which i dont know offhand - [110.map-inv -77 77] will do it, as well as [ 110.map  -77 77  77 -77], where the latter which show you the basic expression for range conversion.

ok, now that i finally read your question ^^ ... if a range is _not centered around 0, i would not call it bipolar.

and note that 64 is _not the middle between 0-127 anyway.

Fantastic collection, thank you! Though I'm still trying to use the native max objects where possible.

I've attached a couple of [function] objects achieving an outcome I want, but I've been looking for a more elegant, non-gui way to create this shape. Most of the math is way over my head so I cant write my own [expr]. The problem is I need expo on one side of the centre and logo on the other, and vice versa.

I've tried using if statements to flip switches and route between different objects depending on whether the values are above or below 0.5 but the final output jumps around too much. I don't know what I'm doing.

I wish there was an object that did this that even had an argument or input for setting how extreme the curve is.


you can shape the curve by the argument to any form of log/exponential or pow/sqrt algorithm.

if you want to use my lego bricks, start the "build yourself" patcher, it should have an example how to use two different curves for upper and lower half of the input range. you can then still simplify it - or move it all into a single expr.


while we are on it, here are the signal versions. 

be warned, there is at least one unfinished/wrong patch among these (i cant tell on windows now)

this is how you use "bipolar-insert" util to split the range into two (same for non-signal)


Re-mapping a range of numbers - add your tricks here....

Julien-Robert

I'd like to trigger (bang) an event in a Max for Live device from a Controller Change sending 127 values. Since the assignable M4L objects ignore duplicate events, how do you do that?

(for example, if I map my CC to a live.toggle and my midi controller always sends 127, that toggle will output only the first one...)

trigger-event-with-cc-through-ableton

Make a MIDI device, and input CCs directly to the device, bypassing the live.* UI objects and MIDI mapping altogether.
Or make a remote script and get MIDI messages from that through the Control Surface API.


How do you input CC directly to the device? Ctlin doesn't work inside a M4L device...


You could try using the external objects 'imp.midi'

http://www.theimpersonalstereo.com/max-externals/


I'm able to use midiid with midiparse for a CC. Are you sure?
For imp.midi, I'm not fan about externals but it seems to be an option.


Yes I am sure. midiin is the default MIDI object in M4L midi devices.
You can also use ctlin, not sure why you think you can't do that?


Of course you can use ctlin in M4L devices, but it will ignore duplicate events too.


hello guys, am I missing something pretty basic? I am doing midiin->midiparse. Notes read just fine. CC values do not show up at all. Except a mysterious CC 0 123 channel 1 that comes up whenever I press Stop. I can't get any values to show up besides that.. Channel information doesn't show up either. Is this a live limitation or am I just a dunce?

man you know what I don't know about the foundations of m4l. i had a meltdown a while back because it looks like there are so many bugs and limitations, i don't even know aboutaboutaboutaboutaboutabo max. omg. even their comments sections has really strange bugs, as you  see above with me trying to  a  a delete a word. what the 

how can you  aabuild a coding language when there are so many foundational issues. it's really messed up bb.. bugs are an essental part , this is the completely wrong 

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We are happy to announce the release of RNBO 1.3.0, available now for download via the Max Package Manager. With this update, we are...

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Hi everyone, I've been building a poly synth that supposed to incorprate both substractive synthesis and granular synthesis. Essentialy the

Amazing, thank you, that's perfect.

erratum, it works with [pipe]. Any idea how this probability concept could effectively work on each note triggered simultaneously ?...

"In this case, the toolbars have to be opened inside the window" toolbars overlapping the patcher canvas would be acceptable (and still...

I think I got it. Thanks !

This bit me before too - it's not super obvious. If the audio engine is off in Live, the high priority thread in Max does not run at all....

Hej everybody. I found this thread while searching for implementations of oscillators like this or others like van der pool etc. in gen. I...

while we are on it, here are the signal versions. be warned, there is at least one unfinished/wrong patch among these (i cant tell on...

how can you aabuild a coding language when there are so many foundational issues. it's really messed up bb.. bugs are an essental part ,...

Guy, after a restart it worked. So tabs can also do popups. Weird that in my case it needed a restart, but nonetheless happy ;-)