h1data

Hi, I'm new to the forum. I would like to write about the dynamic colors feature.

(1) Max always shows a dialog asking to save or not to when the help patch "live.colors.maxhelp" is closed.

It shows " * " after the patch name but cannot figure out when the patch was modified from loaded.

(2) (just feedback) It's wonderful that the default bgfillcolor of panel objects is

"Control Fill Button" when Max is loaded from Live to edit M4L.

I once thought the default textcolor of comment objects might be "View Text" like panel.

But in a view of backward compatibility, I agree with the current default setting (black).

(1) Max always shows a dialog asking to save or not to when the help patch "live.colors.maxhelp" is closed.
It shows " * " after the patch name but cannot figure out when the patch was modified from loaded.

(2) (just feedback) It's wonderful that the default bgfillcolor of panel objects is
"Control Fill Button" when Max is loaded from Live to edit M4L.
I once thought the default textcolor of comment objects might be "View Text" like panel.
But in a view of backward compatibility, I agree with the current default setting (black).

Hi, I'm new to the forum. I would like to write about the dynamic colors feature.
(1) Max always shows a dialog asking to save or not to whe

about-live-colors-and-the-dynamic-colors-feature

About (1), it doesn't occur after installing the 8.2 release version. I think it can be closed now.

About (2), I wrote it is okay that the default bgfillcolor of panel objects is Dynamic color, however, the color would be varied from previous versions when default and it's not intended.

about live.colors and the dynamic colors feature

👽It W∆s ∆lienz👽

hi! i finally have a question i can't find the answer to anywhere(i checked reference page, help file, and also did a quick search on the forums here(also searched, "classic mode noise~ object max msp" on google... nothing), also visualized it using the setup within the plot~ helpfile's 'spectral' tab, checked it in spectrogram object, and fabfilter Q3's visualizer, i can't tell visually either)... 

(i'm trying it out, i don't think my ears are subtle enough to notice a difference by themselves either.. but perhaps when using it to create a hi-hat sound recently, i noticed switching between the two seemed to create more higher-frequency presence in 'classic' mode(?)... by ears alone... i'm guessing 'classic' had some older interpolation or none at all, allowed more digital aliasing?... not sure, tho)

anyone have any idea what the 'classic' attribute on the msp noise~ object does, how does it change the way it generates white noise?

hi! i finally have a question i can't find the answer to anywhere(i checked reference page, help file, and also did a quick search on the forums here(also searched, "classic mode noise~ object max msp" on google... nothing), also visualized it using the setup within the plot~ helpfile's 'spectral' tab, checked it in spectrogram object, and fabfilter Q3's visualizer, i can't tell visually either)... 
(i'm trying it out, i don't think my ears are subtle enough to notice a difference by themselves either.. but perhaps when using it to create a hi-hat sound recently, i noticed switching between the two seemed to create more higher-frequency presence in 'classic' mode(?)... by ears alone... i'm guessing 'classic' had some older interpolation or none at all, allowed more digital aliasing?... not sure, tho)
anyone have any idea what the 'classic' attribute on the msp noise~ object does, how does it change the way it generates white noise?

hi! i finally have a question i can't find the answer to anywhere(i checked reference page, help file, and also did a quick search on the fo

question-what-is-this-"classic"-attribute-on-the-noise~-object

@RAJA we've changed the default random number generator algorithm to use Xoshiro256+, and the 'classic' attribute (which defaults to 0), when enabled, falls back on the old implementation.

ah sweet, Thank You So Much, Ben! 🙏
🦾


"classic" means like in stone age, when different noise~ instances with the same seed were outputting the same signal, right?

question: what is this "classic" attribute on the noise~ object?

john telfer

Is there any way to modify the input volume threshold of retune~ @pitchdetection so that the output signal mirrors the volume envelope of the input and not just turn on or off at a specific volume threshold? Thanks

Is there any way to modify the input volume threshold of retune~ @pitchdetection so that the output signal  mirrors the volume envelope of the input and not just turn on or off at a specific volume threshold?  Thanks

Is there any way to modify the input volume threshold of retune~ @pitchdetection so that the output signal  mirrors the volume envelope of t

retune~-pitchdetection-input-volume-threshold

retune~ @pitchdetection input volume threshold

davidestevens

Mac OS. M1 Mini. Max opened using Rosetta.

The Project Search Path has the project default path set, and an additional searchpath to a folder containing folders of settings and so forth.

If I click on List Paths, I can see that all of the paths are shown.

I unlock the main patch and add a message box -> absolutepath -> set message box chain.

I send [media] (in the Project folder) to absolutepath and get the path to a folder inside the Max app. [data] gets me the path to a folder in Max 8/Library.

Sending the name of any of the subfolders of the additionals folder to absolutepath returns [notfound].

Mac OS. M1 Mini. Max opened using Rosetta.
Opened an existing project.

The Project Search Path has the project default path set, and an additional searchpath to a folder containing folders of settings and so forth.
If I click on List Paths, I can see that all of the paths are shown.
I unlock the main patch and add a message box -> absolutepath -> set message box chain.
I send [media] (in the Project folder) to absolutepath and get the path to a folder inside the Max app. [data] gets me the path to a folder in Max 8/Library.
Sending the name of any of the subfolders of the additionals folder to absolutepath returns [notfound].
I think it may be broken!


Mac OS. M1 Mini. Max opened using Rosetta.
Opened an existing project.
The Project Search Path has the project default path set, and an addi

max-8-2-rosetta2-absolutepath-not-working

I can repro this and we will look into. It does look like a regression from Max 8.1.11. Thanks!

Max 8.2 / Rosetta2 /absolutepath not working.

yet another self-generating patch piece... you load it up, turn on audio, hit the start button, and then listen and watch until you get tired of it 😇

here's a video demoing how the patch plays:

yet another all-in-one viz&audio self-generating max patch :)
this is the story i made up behind the title:

'The Mandolinorian is a mandolin player from the planet of Mandalore. This song tells the sad tale of how the Mandolinorian lost a mandolin in the great war of Mandalore. The Mandolinorian was not a fighter, did not fight in the war, simply fell asleep in the middle of it and upon awakening, found their mandolin purloined. Ever since, The Mandolinorian has been weeping in agony and searching desperately for their precious mandolin every day.. in fact, it has been so long that the Mandolinorian has been searching far and wide, away from Mandalore, and without mandolin, that these days, The Mandolinorian is no longer known as The Mandolinorian, but just as 'some random dude'.
Thus ends the sad tale of The Mandolinorian.'


you can grab this patch here:
https://cycling74.com/forums/-share-the-mandolinorian

TheMandolinorian

what's that you ask? what do the visuals have to do with The Mandolinorian(aside from the fact that i was just making a quick thing to go with the sounds)? well, you see, our beloved Seymour was The Mandolinorian(until he became just some random dude named Seymour), and here he is walking all across the universe through worm holes in order to find his mandolin. that's just what it looks like when you walk through worm holes: like your body is stretched out into a disgusting gizzard-like set of molecules that twitch to an awkward beat. now you know 😇

_TheMandolinorian.maxpat.zip

yet another self-generating patch piece... you load it up, turn on audio, hit the start button, and then listen and watch until you get tired of it 😇
here's a video demoing how the patch plays:

The Mandolinorian is a mandolin player from the planet of Mandalore. This song tells the sad tale of how the Mandolinorian lost a mandolin in the great war of Mandalore. The Mandolinorian was not a fighter, did not fight in the war, simply fell asleep in the middle of it and upon awakening, found their mandolin purloined. Ever since, The Mandolinorian has been weeping in agony and searching desperately for their precious mandolin every day.. in fact, it has been so long that the Mandolinorian has been searching far and wide, away from Mandalore, and without mandolin, that these days, The Mandolinorian is no longer known as The Mandolinorian, but just as 'some random dude'.
Thus ends the sad tale of The Mandolinorian.

what's that you ask? what do the visuals have to do with The Mandolinorian(aside from the fact that i was just making a quick thing to go with the sounds)? well, you see, our beloved Seymour was The Mandolinorian(until he became just some random dude named Seymour), and here he is walking all across the universe through worm holes in order to find his mandolin. that's just what it looks like when you walk through worm holes: like your body is stretched out into a disgusting gizzard-like set of molecules that twitch to an awkward beat. now you know 😇
here's the patch, enjoy:

yet another self-generating patch piece... you load it up, turn on audio, hit the start button, and then listen and watch until you get tire

-share-the-mandolinorian

oh... also... if i may post in a consecutive reply... not exactly on-topic of this patch, but since i've been saving myself from pandemic doldrums with so many patches like this, thought i might share some of the results in video form of some other recent patches i created(they have some secrets i'm not ready to share yet, so i just share the results, but i'll have others i'll share again and again soon)...
this was an interesting jit.gl.pix technique i really enjoyed(and also my first attempt at getting drums nicely side-chain ducking my bassline so the two could live together with utmost impact):


and here's another, where i got even better at sidechaining the bass so the drums could come out more vibrantly and everything can live in the mix with utmost impact and presence(still needs work on some of the out-of-control allpass~ distortion on that one snare hit, tho 😅):


last one sounds great, would like to see patch(audio portion at least)

would like to see patch(audio portion at least)

perfect, that i can do(i was hesitant to share because the visual basics have some things i might develop more into a style of mine, so for now wanted to keep that part under wraps a bit longer)... happy to share the audio portion..

also, @VOJKO V, i'm so glad you asked for this! 🙌
because i realize looking through it now, it'll be interesting for folks to see: there's a synth here i got modelled after the Buchla 700, which i made after helping Sandeep in this thread:
https://cycling74.com/forums/using-history-to-create-a-feedback-network 

(for this patch, just turned it into an MC version with more detailed control)... but there are other feedback network routings which Buchla came up with for this particular FM synthesizer, which you could try to make yourself based on the information found on this preservation site:
https://lanterman.ece.gatech.edu/buchla700/ 
(i've been meaning to try the other routings they have in some of the docs there, they look like the simple diagram the original user, Sandeep, posted in the forum thread above... there are many others configurations for FM shown like that)

also, quick credit goes to Shakeeb Alireza, for the Schroeder Reverb i'm using, i need to get more detailed with it, for now, just using it to give a softer presence underneath all the digital sharpness(but the thread is linked in the patch here)

and finally, don't take the rest too seriously, i was just improvising to discover new things... 
for the full effect best if you start max first, start audio next, then load this patch. it will start with a loud gunshot/snare in the beginning, then shortly after start sequencing/playing on its own. everything is protected at the output by limi~ but have your hand near your hardware volume control just in case, depending on your hardware settings it can start very loud.

ok, sorry for the lengthy explanation, here ya go, enjoy:


yooo thansk a lot for sharing your work. Lots of things to unpack here :) I was very unsettled by the strange vision of the Mandolinorian  stretched internal organs and as a result liked it a lot !)

Thank you @Vichug, I appreciate that very much 🙏🍻

[share] The Mandolinorian

benjamin vyger

Too many lines (more than 10000) were posted to the max Console at once; output truncated.

I send 46 ints at the same time from the USB native port of an Arduino DUE. 36 ints were ok, no problem to record data in Live.

Does anyone have an idea to fix this problem?

Truncation problem.amxd

I send 46 ints at the same time from the USB native port of  an Arduino DUE. 36 ints were ok,  no problem to record data in Live.

Hello.
I have this message in my M4L instru
Too many lines (more than 10000) were posted to the max Console at once; output truncated.
I sen

too-many-lines-more-than-10000-were-posted-to-the-max-console-at-once-output-truncated

chapelier fou

Does anyone get how to pitch shift audio with mubu.granular~ ?

" For granular synthesis in synchronous mode, a marker track is required that marks the elementary waveforms of the audio stream." 

Does anyone get how to pitch shift audio with mubu.granular~ ?
The help file says 
" For granular synthesis in synchronous mode, a marker track is required that marks the elementary waveforms of the audio stream." 
Any explanation would be nice !  

Does anyone get how to pitch shift audio with mubu.granular~ ?
The help file says 
" For granular synthesis in synchronous mode, a marker tr

mubu-granular~-pitch-shift

While I don't have an immediate answer, I know there's an active forum on IRCAM's website which may be some help!

https://discussion.forum.ircam.fr/c/mubu/mubu-for-max/59 

Thank you. You brought me there so thanks for the customer service ! 

Found this https://discussion.forum.ircam.fr/t/mubu-granular-transposition-and-playback/1046/3 
It feels so clumsy. 
grainflow~ is a lot easier to use in my opinion. 

mubu.granular~ pitch shift

I don't see a list of objects that don't load with 8.2, so I thought I'd start one, hoping that it will be useful for some and a prompt for others (hint hint).

(i've tried this with 8.2 set to load natively, but the following list is of objects that fail to load (incorrect architecture) while running Max8.2 in Rosetta2. These are all objects that I use a lot.)

 (specifically OSC-route & list-interpolate)

 (I think this would be very difficult to replace with native objects, but I'm very happy to be proved wrong!)

 (I've replaced a lot of these with native objects, but there are some LObjects that are tricky to replace).

I don't see a list of objects that don't load with 8.2, so I thought I'd start one, hoping that it will be useful for some and a prompt for others (hint hint).
(i've tried this with 8.2 set to load natively, but the following list is of objects that fail to load (incorrect architecture) while running Max8.2 in Rosetta2. These are all objects that I use a lot.)


fromascii and toascii  (jasch objects / Package Manager)
all of the string objects from jasch objects (I guess all of the jasch objects)
mubu
CNMAT externals (specifically OSC-route & list-interpolate)
f0 objects
imp objects (specifically imp.artnet.controller)
zsa.descriptors (from the Packages installer)
fluidsynth~ (I think this would be very difficult to replace with native objects, but I'm very happy to be proved wrong!)
LObjects (I've replaced a lot of these with native objects, but there are some LObjects that are tricky to replace).
ml.markov


I don't see a list of objects that don't load with 8.2, so I thought I'd start one, hoping that it will be useful for some and a prompt for 

max-8-2-rosetta-non-functioning-objects

@DAVID So far all of the items I've tried from the above list work well while running Max 8.2 in Rosetta. When you Get Info on the Max app in the Finder, do you see that 'Open Using Rosetta' is selected?

@BEN BRACKEN  Doh. I think I must have my brain in literally backwards - I looked at that checkbox and carefully misunderstood and left it unchecked, rather than checked. After I set it as you suggested, everything is loading.  There are some new error messages about faulty filepaths (can't find notfound....) , but that should be easily sortable, and multiple errors from interfacecolor.js, which I've tracked down to the old copied version of the dsp setup window that is in all of my patchers, so I just need to revise that.
The list still stands (if it's useful) for running 8.2 without Rosetta.
thanks

Max 8.2 / Rosetta / non-functioning objects

SAEVENTEK

:: Figured it out, had something to do with the way I set up velocity in makenote, but got it working ::

I'm working on a sequencer that uses a Multislider with 16 sliders and a range of 32 steps (0-31), with Native Instruments Battery holding all my samples...

It works fine currently but I noticed that when using Battery it only bangs the sample on steps 0-3 and is silent on steps 4-31 and can't for the life of me figure out why...

If I use the playlist~ object instead of Battery, it bangs on any step and activates the sample for playback... Not sure what I'm doing wrong and if It has to do with settings in Battery or what, but I'm trying to avoid using the playlist object altogether do to its high CPU and my old computer can't handle it...

If anyone knows something I don't in regards to Battery and a way to get Multislider to work on all steps, not just 0-3, i'm def stumped atm thanks!

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UPDATE: RESOLVED
:: Figured it out, had something to do with the way I set up velocity in makenote, but got it working ::

I'm working on a sequencer that uses a Multislider with 16 sliders and a range of 32 steps (0-31), with Native Instruments Battery holding all my samples... 

It works fine currently but I noticed that when using Battery it only bangs the sample on steps 0-3 and is silent on steps 4-31 and can't for the life of me figure out why... 

UPDATE: RESOLVED
:: Figured it out, had something to do with the way I set up velocity in makenote, but got it working ::
I'm working on a s

multislider-with-battery

Nevermind! Figured it out, had something to do with the way I set up velocity in makenote, but got it working 

Multislider with Battery

benj3737

there are a few externals that are essential to my workflow. Now that max is native to Apple Silicon, I’m curious what is needed to get these externals to work without Rosetta. 

does the creator need an apple silicon Mac to compile them? 

are there any guides to help with the transition?

Hello!
 there are a few externals that are essential to my workflow. Now that max is native to Apple Silicon, I’m curious what is needed to get these externals to work without Rosetta. 
does the creator need an apple silicon Mac to compile them? 
 are there any guides to help with the transition?
 Thank you

Hello!
 there are a few externals that are essential to my workflow. Now that max is native to Apple Silicon, I’m curious what is needed to 

creating-apple-silicon-native-externals

Creating Apple Silicon native externals

Ben Bracken

. The Runner provides plug and play access to a 

 from the Max application, using using OSCQuery for communication with the running code.

This update features a new web-based interface with routing capabilities, expanded hardware support, along with many other improvements and bug fixes. Improvements include:

We've also rolled in direct support for the 

 add-on package, and have included a number of other improvements and bug fixes. Check out the release notes 

We are happy to announce the release of RNBO 1.3.0, available now for download via the Max Package Manager.

With this update, we are...

rnbo-130-released

RNBO 1.3.0 Released

We are excited to announce the availability of our 

 as a public beta. We’ve worked closely with 

. The Eventide H9000 is a rack-sized multi-effects unit with powerful DSP processing capabilities and numerous high quality built-in effects. We’re excited to enable RNBO export for this and open the door to unique custom studio effects and instruments without the strict limitations of other hardware platforms.

RNBO support is similar to the existing Gen support, but more streamlined, and uses the built-in 

, rather than a watcher patcher, to manage the export process. Eventually, all of these changes will be rolled into the standard release versions of RNBO and this package.

Get the preview version of the RNBO package (v1.2.7-eventide.0):

Get the preview version of the "Eventide H9000" package (v1.0.4-beta.3):

We’d love to hear any experiences and feedback from RNBO users with access to an H9000. To join the discussion, use the 

We are excited to announce the availability of our Eventide package for RNBO as a public beta. We’ve worked closely with Eventide to bring...

Cycling '74 Forums

We are happy to announce the release of RNBO 1.3.0, available now for download via the Max Package Manager. With this update, we are...

We are excited to announce the availability of our Eventide package for RNBO as a public beta. We’ve worked closely with Eventide to...

About (1), it doesn't occur after installing the 8.2 release version. I think it can be closed now. About (2), I wrote it is okay that the...

"classic" means like in stone age, when different noise~ instances with the same seed were outputting the same signal, right?

Is there any way to modify the input volume threshold of retune~ @pitchdetection so that the output signal mirrors the volume envelope of t

I can repro this and we will look into. It does look like a regression from Max 8.1.11. Thanks!

Thank you @Vichug, I appreciate that very much 🙏🍻

Found this https://discussion.forum.ircam.fr/t/mubu-granular-transposition-and-playback/1046/3 It feels so clumsy. grainflow~ is a lot...

@BEN BRACKEN Doh. I think I must have my brain in literally backwards - I looked at that checkbox and carefully misunderstood and left it...

UPDATE: RESOLVED :: Figured it out, had something to do with the way I set up velocity in makenote, but got it working :: I'm working on a s

Hello! there are a few externals that are essential to my workflow. Now that max is native to Apple Silicon, I’m curious what is needed to