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I believe this is new behavior in coll. If I store a series of items using a numeric index from 1 to 10, and use either the bang or next messages to output the messages in sequence, and then I use a specific number to recall an index, the pointer in coll is not set to that number but instead continues to increment from wherever it left off from the last bang/next message.

i.e. Lets say I hit bang 5 times, and the coll is now on index 5. I then send it a 1 message and it outputs 1. But then I hit bang again, it outputs the data from index 6. I would expect it to output data from index 2. Using goto 1 is a workaround for this but does require the extra bang afterwards and i'm pretty sure this would break older patches. Correct me if I'm wrong!

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I believe this is new behavior in coll. If I store a series of items using a numeric index from 1 to 10, and  use either the bang or next messages to output the messages in sequence, and then I use a specific number to recall an index, the pointer in coll is not set to that number but instead continues to increment from wherever it left off from the last bang/next message. 

i.e. Lets say I hit bang 5 times, and the coll is now on index 5. I then send it a 1 message and it outputs 1. But then I hit bang again, it outputs the data from index 6.  I would expect it to output data from index 2. Using goto 1 is a workaround for this but does require the extra bang afterwards and i'm pretty sure this would break older patches. Correct me if I'm wrong!


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I believe this is new behavior in coll. If I store a series of items using a numeric index from 1 to 10, and  use either the bang or next me

bug-unexpected-behavior-in-coll-when-incrementing-index

@NICK I think this is how it has always worked, at least since Max 7.3.6. It is my understanding that sending a number to coll does not update the index pointer, though goto, bang, next, prev, start, and end will. 

looks like i’m 0 for 3 on this beta! guess i’ll just have to wait for the next one :)

Bug: Unexpected Behavior in coll when incrementing index

Ryan Palm

I love yofiel and synthcore for all the cool things that he shared there. But one thing I don't get, is how all the codebox examples he shared, or many of them dont work with a simple copy paste, as I think they are intended to do. 

I'd just like to add an output to this envelope, but the ways I've tried with my limited understanding return errors when sent out of the gen patcher to max.

I love yofiel and synthcore for all the cool things that he shared there.  But one thing I don't get, is how all the codebox examples he shared, or many of them dont work with a simple copy paste, as I think they are intended to do. 

I'd just like to add an output to this envelope, but the ways I've tried with my limited understanding return errors when sent out of the gen patcher to max.

I love yofiel and synthcore for all the cool things that he shared there.  But one thing I don't get, is how all the codebox examples he sha

how-to-add-an-output-to-this-envelope-code-synthcore

adsr(gate,predelay,att,dec,sus,susn,rel){ 						// BASIC ADSR
// gate: 		+ve transitions from prior value start gate
// predelay: 	sample clock / sample cycles for 5 ms delay 
// att: 		sample clock / sample cycles for attack
// dec: 		sample clock / sample cycles for dec
// sus: 		sustain between 0 & 1
// susn:		1 - sustain
// rel:			sample clock / sample cycles for release
// returns env level 0~1
	Buffer pow25("pow25");
	History hinc, henv, hlvl;
	inc = hinc;
	trg = change(gate);
	out1 = env;
		if (trg >0) {		// envelope on
		if (henv) {			//if trg and env already on, add 5ms decay
			inc = 1;
			hlvl = henv;
		} else inc = 2;	
	} else if (trg <0) {	// envelope off
		inc = 5;
		hlvl = henv;
	}
	inc += selector(hinc,	// set inc for each phase duration
		predelay,			// 1: pre-decay time
		att,				// 2: attack time
		dec,   				// 3: decay time
		0, 					// 4: hold on sustain
		rel,  				// 5: release time
		0);					// 6: end of env cycle
	env = selector(floor(inc),								// calc output levels
		sample (pow25, 1 - wrap(inc, 0, 1)) * hlvl,			// 1. pre-decay
		sample (pow25, wrap(inc, 0, 1)),					// 2. attack
		sample (pow25, 1 - wrap(inc, 0, 1)) * susn + sus,	// 3. decay
		sus,												// 4. sustain
		sample (pow25, 1 - wrap(inc, 0,1)) * hlvl,			// 5. release
		0);													// 6. end of cycle
	hinc = inc;
	henv = env;
	return env;
}

So this is the code. At the end adding a "out1 = env" doesnt seem to work. And a few other ways I've tried. Just a bit what these all were intended for as they don't seem to be able to be connected to anything and are written in a way that doesnt resemble codebox work I've seen elsewhere.

adsr here is a function declaration, there is no instanciation of the function, and the variable "env" doesn't exist outside of the scope of that function ; you need to instantiate it inside the same codebox where you have that declaration - alternately you may save that code in a .genexpr file, put that file in your max search path and write in a gen~ codebox the following line : "require yofieladsr" (if you saved that genexpr as yofieladsr.genexpr for example.)

Instantiating inside codebox (with the function declaration inside the same codebox, so not the "require" method here) would look something like :

adsr(gate,predelay,att,dec,sus,susn,rel){ 	
      [...]
      }
      
out1 = adsr(in1, in2, in3, in4, in5, in5, in7);

where you have 7 input to the codebox, 1 for each argument required to call the function (gate, predel, atk, sus, rls etc)

Yofiel's synthcore is definitely intended to be used as a library, though. So you have the synthcore.genexpr file which contains all the function declarations, and which you need to put in a folder available to your Max search paths.  Then if you look at the _LIBRARY_DEMO.maxpat, you can check for each example how he uses "require synthcore;" at the beginning of each codebox inside gen~ ; then he can call any function available in that library. Example  for using the adsr, you'd just need to write this inside a codebox inside a gen~ subpatcher :
 
require synthcore;
out1 = adsr(in1, in2, in3, in4, in5, in5, in7);


Hi, I think I forgot to mention that envelopes also require some preloaded data into buffers to calulate curves, which it does to reduce CPU usage. That is the Buffer pow25, which is in the demo patch. You can also load different data into the buffer if you want a different curve. What I should have said is, any of the methods with buffers in them are going to need similar preloaded data as in the demo patch. Apologies. 

Thanks for all the help and advice guys. And Ernest! You know, I am actually the person who contacted you several months ago when Synthcore was still dormant. Super happy you released an updated version for everyone. I am active with the Daisy dsp microprocessor for making gen~ synths come to life in hardware. And using this package has brought both me and some others Ive spoken too a lot of joy. So thanks for that.

Also, I am using this topics discussion to make hopefully one of the most usable digital eurorack kicks. I figured I'd share my recent version which lives and is explained here: https://www.spacepupsound.com/copy-of-daisy-patch 

of course, envelope's are key getting a good electronic kick :)

How to add an output to this envelope code (synthcore)?

Blair Z

I have been using the HeartRateOSC https://github.com/trentbrooks/HeartRateOSC and managed to get my hands on a Mio Alpha 2 which was working.. and connecting to Max, but now it has randomly stopped...

I had tested it got it triggering some things to take to an event to show off and it stopped working the night before... no apparent reason..

the watch was still displaying HR. And in the app it finds and then reads that the watch exists in the drop down. But then just gets stuck at scanning....

not sure what changed.. maybe interference with the BLE.?

I have debugged my mac's bluetooth, factory reset the watch and have managed to get the watch streaming to 'Map My Run app' on my iphone...

BUT it still doesnt seem to want to connect to the HeartRateOSX app..

Very strange... trying to find a work around... Any help much appreciated.. 

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Hey Guys,   

 I have been using the HeartRateOSC https://github.com/trentbrooks/HeartRateOSC and managed to get my hands on a Mio Alpha 2 which was working.. and connecting to Max, but now it has randomly stopped...     

I had tested it got it triggering some things to take to an event to show off and it stopped working the night before... no apparent reason..    

the watch was still displaying HR. And in the app it finds and then reads that the watch exists in the drop down. But then just gets stuck at scanning.... 

not sure what changed.. maybe interference with the BLE.? 

I have debugged my mac's bluetooth, factory reset the watch and have managed to get the watch streaming to 'Map My Run app' on my iphone... 

BUT it still doesnt seem to want to connect to the HeartRateOSX app..   

Very strange... trying to find a work around... Any help much appreciated..    



Hey Guys,   

 I have been using the HeartRateOSC https://github.com/trentbrooks/HeartRateOSC and managed to get my hands on a Mio Alpha 2 w

how-to-get-a-ble-heart-rate-monitor-into-osc-in-max

Hi Blair,  so, you got a Mio Alpha 2 connected to Max, using the HeartRateOSC from https://github.com/trentbrooks/HeartRateOSC. I would like to try this out myself, can you post your patch here please?

How to get a BLE Heart Rate Monitor into OSC in Max

Joe Kaplan

Running into this interesting situation. It appears that using some functions from the C API will break the Test project. Here is the simplest reproducible case.

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But attempting to build the Test Project Results in Linker Errors:

Not a showstopper at the moment. But it would be cool to have the option to use MINs built-in catch framework with patches that use the notifications framework.

Please let me know if I'm doing something wrong. Thank you!

Running into this interesting situation.  It appears that using some functions from the C API will break the Test project.    Here is the simplest reproducible case.

But attempting to build the Test Project  Results in Linker Errors:


Not a showstopper at the moment.  But it would be cool to have the option to use MINs built-in catch framework with patches that use the notifications framework.

Please let me know if I'm doing something wrong.  Thank you!

Running into this interesting situation.  It appears that using some functions from the C API will break the Test project.    Here is the si

min-linker-errors-on-test-project-when-patch-includes-object_register

i can reproduce and will look into a fix.

MIN: Linker errors on Test Project when patch includes object_register()

If I am banging a [random 2} the output is 0 and 1.

How can make lean toward choosing more of one of the numbers? 

For example: 25% or 75% more 1's will bang than 0's.

Hi.
If I am banging a [random 2} the output is 0 and 1.
How can make lean toward choosing more of one of the numbers? 
For example: 25% or 75% more 1's will bang than 0's.

Hi.
If I am banging a [random 2} the output is 0 and 1.
How can make lean toward choosing more of one of the numbers? 
For example: 25% or 7

favoring-more-of-one-number

Make a random number from 0 to 99 and use a ">" or "<" object.

Taking this idea up a level.
How can I do the something similar with a list that is not 0, 1?
example: 
[bang]
[message 2 3 5] 
-> favoring 3 more than the others.  

 --or a longer list. 

[bang]
[random 5]
[+ 1}
-> so that the chances might be 12% 1, 23% 2, 43% 3, 2% 4, 20% 5. 

ultimately I would like to be able to adjust on the fly:

short explanation - this will be opening and closing a gate that reads audio files from  folders on my hard drive and sends them to a spat5.sfplay object. The end of each play cycle bangs the gate- the gate is being opened to choose from different foldernames on my hard drive and and being combined with randomly chosen filenames from dict. 
so if I have 5 folders each with 64 audio files, I want to be able to read only from folder 5 -> then after a while read mostly from folder 5 plus a % of time from folder 4 -> then 2 or 3 etc - with the option to skip around.

Here is what I have with comments about what I would like to happen.


Indeed! New object time! Thank you very much!

Favoring more of one number

Lucie Jones

I am trying to combine the outputs from the date object and would like to reorder the outputs to the following:

year month day hour min secs from it's standard month day year....etc. When I send a bang to the date object with the outputs reordered, heading into the combine object, the resulting combine string does not get the month and day data first time, but does on the second bang. When I don't reorder the outputs, they all combine correctly. 

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		}
 ],
	"appversion" : 	{
		"major" : 7,
		"minor" : 3,
		"revision" : 5,
		"architecture" : "x86",
		"modernui" : 1
	}

I am trying to combine the outputs from the date object and would like to reorder the outputs to the following:
year month day hour min secs

date-object-outputs

select all in the unlocked patch, use copy compressed
and then paste here. it is easier to deal with it like that.
if you use combine, check what triggers the output.
execution order in max is right to left and down to up.
when you unpack a list the leftmost one gets output last.
message time, date is itered,
so that date outputs time values first, followed by date values.

Both versions on the screenshot work the same.
Version on the right version shows that a list can be input into combine,
so no need to unpack if reordering is not needed.
list with changeable arguments can reorder the items.
than one receives a list, and triggering is ok without specifying
the inlet. (default trigger input is 0)



date object outputs

submo

I can't seem to get vstscan working. I've added the path of my VST's to the file preferences, and my VST's are showing up on the "Plug-ins" tab to the right, but I can't seem to get vstscan working (not outputting anything). I'm using the vstscan help patch if that makes any difference.

Hello,
I can't seem to get vstscan working. I've added the path of my VST's to the file preferences, and my VST's are showing up on the "Plu

vstscan-not-working

Without more information, I'm not sure what to recommend. You do not need to add your VSTs to the file preferences -- if they are installed in the normal locations, the scanner can find them. Where are your VST plugins installed?

Yeah... Sorry for being a bit vague...
I have my VST's installed at C:\VST\VST64 
I've added this path to the file preferences in Max, and the VST's correctly show up when clicking the "Plug-ins" tab on the left toolbar. I am able to drag them into a patcher (or double click them) and they work fine.

The problem I'm having is that I can't get the vstscan object to list my VST's. I've tried the vstscan help patch and I get nothing output when I send the message "listvst", and I can't see why?


That's because the plugin scanner isn't scanning the non-standard folder that you're using. We have a feature request to allow user-configuration of the scanner's search path (it's not the same as Max's search path -- in fact you shouldn't need to have plugins in Max's search path if the scanner finds them). As I read this, I understand that this could use some improved documentation as well.

OK.... Whats the standard folder that the plugin scanner uses on Windows? 

These are the standard locations on Windows that I'm aware of.

VST3:
C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3

32-Bit VST3 Plug-ins on Windows 64-Bit:
 C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\VST3

VST2:
C:\Program Files\VSTPlugins
C:\Program Files\Steinberg\VSTPlugins
C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST2
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Steinberg\VST2

32-Bit VST2 plug-ins on 64-bit Windows: 
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steinberg\VstPlugins

I created these folders for VST2 (as none of them existed on my PC before):

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